Weaknesses: narrow toe box, weird seems on top of foot
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Well, I've always wanted to try-em so now that you can find M5's on Ebay for under $150.00 I thought that now was the time....
1st off they DO NOT have the wide toe box that made Carnacs famous.
They are wonderfully stiff (compared to my Pearls) but if you like a wide shoe you will be disapointed.
It is going to take some time getting the fit down. They have some weird seams (unlike my Pearls) that I was not expecting and after finishing my last century they felt horrible. Also the heel slips like mad, so much so that you really have to ratchet down the buckle.
So I have to weigh if the incredible stiffness is worth discomfort. I will not use them again on the next century.
Finally they are not any lighter than my non-carbon Pearls. Overall they are a disapointment, keep yours eye out for an ebay bargain.
Strengths: -Super light
-Universal 3 hole platform allows compatability with most cleats
-Wider toe box
-very stiff and responsive
-ratchet tightening device
Weaknesses: -be careful ordering them online...sizes may vary
-if i had paid full price..wayyy expensive
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These shoes can be described with one word, sweetness. They look amazing ( i have the black, gold, and white motif) and they are super light. They also have a wider toe box which is really nice because I have had problems in the past with toe numbness and pain from shoes that grab your foot too tight. The ratchet is a great feature also because it allows you to adjust the tightness without unclipping. Look for good deals online for last year's model and save serious $$! Love them.
Strengths: Weight, stiffness, looks, materials (excluding the buckle).
Weaknesses: Flimsy quality of the buckle, departure from Carnac's traditional shoe last (cut/sizing). You'll notice that I only gave them a 1 in the value rating catagory. In my opinion, a flimsy buckle on a $300 shoe is just inexcusable. Good shoe with plenty of redeeming qualities, but a flimsy buckle and a high price kills the whole value thing for them. If you are looking for value, I'd suggest stepping down to the composite sole version. The composite soles are still stiff (definitely stiffer than sidi's), but nothing performs like a full carbon sole but a full carbon sole.
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Carnacs have come quite a ways since the Legend, Eclipse, and Platinum models that helped make them a staple in the U.S. Their new lineup has some winners in it, including their flagship M5 carbon. I'll spare you from any, "these are the best I've ever owned" comments. Afterall, at their standard price point ($329 - $369), they are the most expensive cycling shoes I've ever purchased - So they should be the best. Actually, I got them on sale for $229 at www.gearandtraining.com and www.glorycycles.com has them on sale for $199.00. Obviously, these are closeout prices for the 05 model, and the 06's are closing out at about $299 as of August, 2006.
The white carbon soles are nice and stiff, but the shoe does not produce hotspots. They are nicely ventilated, and they look great. The shortcomings are in the buckle and sizing departments.
The buckle seems somewhat flimsy for a $300+ shoe. I'm afraid to ratchet it down on the move while riding because I'm afraid I'll rip it off or something. Another example of weight savings at the expense of strength. Oh yes, the shoes are very light. As far as sizing is concerned, they seem to fit true to size, but they don't have the typical Carnac feel. Gone are the familiar wide toe box and vamp (roominess for the top of the foot). Additionally, I've got a pet peeve about the lack of easy availability of a true size tweleve. For Carnac, this is 45.5, not 46 as many retailers will lead you to believe. However, the 45.5's are very hard to come by, and most retailers are representing the 46's as 12's, but they are really size 12.5. This may not be a problem for everyone, but there are a lot of size 12 cyclists sloshing around in size 46/12.5 M5's. If you wear a size 12, beware!
Despite some of the drawbacks I mentioned, they are good shoes, and I'm happy with my purchase. I'd buy them again, if I had reason too.
Strengths: super lightweight, excellent new buckle system, great looking
Weaknesses: doesn't have traditional Carnac fit, sizing inconsistent.
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This is the fourth pair of Carnac shoes for me so I am a dedicated fan of this brand and the fit. Please know that this shoe is a complete re-design and is dramatically different than Carnac's previous flagship road shoe, the Quartz. The M5 is far lighter than the Quartz and features an updated ratcheting buckle made popular by other brands in recent years. The shoe is also great looking and doesn't have that fragile chrome-look strip on the sides like the Quartz. (the one that that always peeled off after a season or so) This shoe has an extremely low profile and a heel cup that does not grip your heel nearly as firmly as the old Quartz model. It will really take some getting used to but I think in time, it will not be an issue. The toe box is still roomier than most brands, but not as spacious as the Quartz. I refer to these shoes as "dancing shoes" and that is exactly how they feel. There are a couple of "bumps" in the inner lining just under the top buckle, but another reviewer says these disappear after a few hours of riding. Two things to note: Due to the added bulk to the sides of the shoe from ratcheting buckle- When I first tried these on the bike, the buckle brushed against my crankshafts on both sides of my crank. I use Speedplay zeros, so I was able to adjust the cleat and fix the problem. This could be an issue with other fixed float pedal systems. As far as fit, I had to try 3 pair before finding a pair that fit. Ultimately I bought a 43 but another 43 I tried was aalmost an inch longer! If you by via Internet, make sure they have a liberal return policy in case you need to try different sizes. Steve at Extreme Performance Gear and Training was outstanding and worked with me to get a good fit.
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