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Techai
a Road Racer
from Date Reviewed: October 29, 2007
Strengths: Good external material, good chamois Race 3DWeaknesses: very bad design with a rough, abrasive seam running under the center of the chamois producing irritating and painful friction. Expensive, especially for the poor design.Bottom Line: This is about the Gavia Amfib Bibs. The same 3D Race chamois is wonderful. However there is a seam running underneath it right down the middle of the chamois that is rough and abrasive. You can't tell this just by trying them on in the store but after some time in the saddle, your sensive areas declare its presence loud and clear. This is a terrible shame because otherwise it is a good product, but with this it is a horrible design and a failure in the real world. You can feel this seam in the store if you know what to look for. I've never had anything close to this problem with Giordana, Canari or even Performance. Stay away.
Similar Products Used: Giordana, Canari
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a england
a Recreational Rider
from Date Reviewed: May 26, 2007
Strengths: Chamois and fitWeaknesses: Its a lot to pay for a short but not as much as other shorts on the market that don't have as nice a chamois and don't hold upBottom Line: The New 3D Pro Strech Chamois is the nicest I have ever riden. Padding is not to think but dense enough to not pack out on a long ride over rougher roads like the chamois in my Assos and Castelli shorts
Favorite Ride: any
Price Paid:
$140.00
Purchased At: University
Similar Products Used: Assos, Castelli
Bike Setup: Flite Saddle
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Evans224
a Road Racer
from Date Reviewed: May 7, 2007
Strengths: Looks, fit, chamois are all top notch. Excellent durability if taken care of. I finally wore out a pair after almost 2 years of regular riding.Weaknesses: A bit priceyBottom Line: Bike shorts are very much a personal choice, and I've tried numerous brands. These are a close second to my Assos FI.13 at half the price. They fit great, look great, and are excellent for that long ride.
Favorite Ride: Mt. D
Price Paid:
$110.00
Purchased At: Performance
Similar Products Used: Assos, Descente, Castelli
Bike Setup: Specialized S-Works Roubaix w/SRAM Force componentry.
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cslayton
a Recreational Rider
from Date Reviewed: August 19, 2006
Strengths: Fabric and cut make these almost "not there" but for the horrible pad.Weaknesses: "Padding" was perineal torture.Bottom Line: I make it a rule never to pay over $100 for shorts, but this was a sale and after trying on everything else in the store, I decided to go for the high-price spread for a change. The fabric and cut were exceptional, and I am a fairly “average” build (175 lbs, 5’11”) so the Medium worked for me. Riding in them was another matter. Twenty-six miles and an spin session were enough for me, I took them back to the store for credit.
The pad may as well not have been there. I am riding a Brooks Wooden, er.. Leather Swift Saddle which is still in it’s break-in period (just over 1000 miles) and I expect this feeling from my ancient Tinley and Hind shorts, which are virtually unpadded, but not from a pair of $160 shorts. The center seam was a tangible presence that was very irritating to me.
Perhaps on a Specialized Alias saddle (or any other center-grooved saddle) I would still be wearing these, but I have ridden leather virtually my whole life.
The LBS said they could not resell them since there was already some pilling in the under-the-butt area, which should not be there after such a short trial, so I am awaiting PI’s pleasure, which probably means I will get some Ultrasensors in exchange.
I really think PI should pull these from the market, the pad is just poorly designed. The cache of marketing any aspect of a garment as “for racing” does not excuse such discomfort for so much moolah. A well-designed pad in such otherwise comfortable shorts might have almost seemed worth the price. My ratings are based solely on their unrideability, I wish I could give PI credit for the fabric and cut, but I am down $130 and not happy.
Favorite Ride: Anywhere
Price Paid:
$130.00
Purchased At: sale@LBS
Similar Products Used: Sugoi
Santini gel
Performance Elite (best value)
Ancient stuff from byegone days - Hind and Tinley
Bike Setup: Specialized Roubaix Elite with Brooks Swift saddle.
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wipeout
a Road Racer
from Date Reviewed: July 25, 2006
Strengths: Bib straps don't slip - seem well made.Weaknesses: Poorly placed seams cause chafing in front and back.Bottom Line: I've changed my mind regarding these bibs. My previous evaluation was incorrect. Since my initial trial with this product I've discovered that there is a seam that runs up in front that causes chafing and pain. Also in the back the seams causes sores on the buttocks after several hours of riding. I've tried different brands of bibs now, and have to say that the PI's now fail miserably!
Price Paid:
$140.00
Purchased At: REI
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