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AJS
a Recreational Rider
from Date Reviewed: August 15, 2004
Weaknesses: ~ Veloce is essentially the same animal, but about 1/2 the price.Bottom Line: For the Centaur Ultra-Drive 10v 12-25:
It's Campy. It's a cassette. It shifts beautifully and wears well with proper maintenance, and is light enough to race on or great as an everyday cogset, (unless you want uber-light then buy Record Ti). That's pretty much it.
Oh yeah - the price. At $85.-110. or so at most dealers, they're not the value that a Veloce cassette is, but supposedly a few grams lighter if that means anything.
The steel cogs themnselves are the same on all 4 top Campy units - Veloce, Centaur, Chorus, Record - but as you go up in level more of the larger cogs are joined ("pre-assembled" in Campy-speak) with carriers instead of loose spacers.
On the 12-25 for example, the Veloce has all loose spacers. The Centaur 25 & 23 cogs are joined. On Chorus & Record the 23 & 25, 21 & 19, and 17 & 16 cogs are joined. Apparently Campy feels this makes for an increasingly stiffer, more solid cogset as you go up in price. I haven't used a Veloce recently, but I can say I don't feel a difference on the pedals between the Centaur and the Record.
Overall Rating is 4, only because the Record Ti exists.
Price Paid:
$70.00
Purchased At: Greenfish Adv. Sport
Similar Products Used: Record 10 steel/Ti, Record 10 Ti, various Shimano 9v.
Bike Setup: K2 Enemy, Centaur 10v, Zonda wheelset.
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Leisure
a Recreational Rider
from Date Reviewed: June 23, 2002
Strengths: Flawless shifting. If you lost a chainring you would have, of all things, a ten speed.Weaknesses: Almost certainly heavier than Chorus or Record.Bottom Line: Here's the followup from immediately below. This cassette shifts perfectly every time. Never the slightest hesitation. So many gears I never find myself wanting more, even on this 12-25 spread. That piece of plastic I was talking about--it was part of the packaging, not the cassette itself. I don't know what I was thinking.
Favorite Ride: any canyon
Purchased At: Canyon Bikes
Similar Products Used: Demoed everything from 105 to Record. Good to stellar shifting is pretty much the norm for all these guys.
Bike Setup: Gunnar Roadie, Daytona group, Woundup fork
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Ken
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from Salt Lake City, UtahDate Reviewed: August 26, 2001
Strengths: Ten speed Campy for not too much money...or so I thought.Weaknesses: $210 ARE YOU FRIGGIN' KIDDING ME!!! FOR THAT MUCH MONEY I WANT EACH TOOTH HAND-POLISHED AND INDIVIDUALLY ANODIZED IN PURPLE, BLACK, AND GOLD WITH A RELEASE SCREW SO I CAN REPLACE THEM OR COLOR COORDINATE THEM ANY WAY I WANT, AND IT WILL HAVE A VOICE-ACTIVATED DEVICE THAT SYNTHESIZES THE SOUND OF ANY HUB OR COMPUTER-GENERATED COMPOSITE OF ANY NUMBER OF HUBS, AS WELL AS THE OPTION OF A RECORDING OF LANCE SCREAMING "GET OUT OF MY WAYYY!!! GET THE HELL OUT OF MY WAYYY!!!"!Bottom Line: Yes, I know that quoted price up there is a typo. I can't wait to get this thing. It looks pretty solidly built, with some grooves to assist shifting which may be superfluous given that there's so little change between cogs. There's some plastic on it but functionally it's in a pretty innocuous place.
I decided against Shimano since everything I've been hearing reflects what I've been experiencing: Shimano's reliability is going down with each passing generation. My mountainbike has only two Shimano parts on it: an XT cassette and XTR shifters. Both have been damaged by minor impacts. Everything else on my bike has dealt with more abuse, and none of it is damaged beyond mild scratches. Had another company been available to offer a serious alternative, there would not be a single Shimano part on my mountainbike.
Hardcore roadies should be thankful they can purchase a complete quality grouppo designed by someone other than the big"S". This whole grouppo, despite being Campy's third-string setup, exudes a commitment to longevity I'm just not seeing in Shimano lately. I figure Daytona is heavier than Campy's upscale alternatives, but this cassette should hold up well and shift as well as I need. I'm giving it a tentative 4-star rating, and will post a follow up when I have some long-term experience on it.
Which brings me to my last point: where are all the reviews? You people need to share your experiences with your stuff more, good or bad. C'mon, the people most afraid of stating their opinions probably have the most to say. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
Favorite Ride: a mountainbike trail
Similar Products Used: Mountainbike stuff, not a good place for comparison
Bike Setup: Gunnar w/ Woundup fork, Daytona grouppo. It's all been ordered, I'm just waiting for my lbs to get the parts.
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