SRAM Force 10 Speed Road Group: 2010 SRAM Force road groupset with updated graphics inspired by the Red group. Unidirectional carbon is now used for the shifters, crankset and rear derailleur. New 'Zephyr Silver' finish.
This is a review of SRAM Force 22. As installed, I'm getting a decent amount of rub/rasp in some of the combinations (more than I get with Shimano 105/10 on my other bike). It's possible that I could fix this if I took the time to reinstall the FD. But the bike was built up by uber-framebuilder Chris Bishop, who knows his stuff.
a Road Racer
Date Reviewed: July 12, 2013
Strengths: - light
- very positive shifting
- good ergonomics of the levers
- very powerful brakes
Weaknesses: - sometimes force needed to move the lever for downshift (rear) seems too great
- when on last cog, a downshift would result in an upshift - need to always be aware on what rear cog you're in
Went these days from my old 2003 tiagra with campa monoplanar brakes to the 2012 force group. The old worn out one and the new group do not stand comparison. Besides the expected weight advantage and clockwork functioning of the Force group, i was very pelased with the shape of the brake / shifter units. Since the levers are longer that the old shimano ones, smoothe transitions from bar to hood are not that crucial as in case of the 4400 tiagra hoods - when entirely gripping the hoods, your hands will not meet the bar-hood transition.
Shifting is spot on and, since the upper joint of the rear derailleur is fixed, the derailleur is less susceptible to the influences a slightly bent RD hanger could have on shifting (when using a RD with a mobile upper joint,rear shifting quality can vary with the chainring used up front - i.e. good rear shifting when on small ring, bad rear shifting on large ring).
I presume I'll adapt to the force needed to downshift the RD, so this is not an issue.
One factor i consider a bit uncomfortable is that downshifts, when on the largest cog in the rear, result in an upshift. This is because of the design of the SRAM shifter units: each lever movement will result in either an upshift or a downshift. Also, nothing you can't get used to, it just feels awkward at first. Always know which cog you're on and you'll never meet this problem.
Bike Setup: 2x10 sram force group except for the crankset which is shimano fc-r700.
a Recreational Rider
Date Reviewed: June 5, 2011
Strengths: Nice looking. Light. Well made. Very easy to shift. I don't agree with the comment that they need undue force to shift up (in cog size) either the crankset or the cassette. It is easy and smooth.
Weaknesses: None have surfaced as yet.
Well made and apparently far less complex than the Shimano system. When I was trying to fix the Ultegra shifters, my LBS said that if I removed a certain screw on the Ultegra shifters all would be lost...probably on the floor. It was lost anyway so maybe a moot point.
Force is lighter than Ultegra, pretty easy (for an amateur) to put on the bike and set-up. Even the upshifting/ downshifting tensioning for the cables seemed to be easier and less finicky.
Bike Setup: Cervelo Superprodigy (2004) came with Ultegra which failed in 2010 despite not really having put huge miles on the bike. No way of fixing it. Thanks Shimano!
Parts are now 2010 Force except for the brakes..Cervelo house brakes... and the crankset...FSA Gossamer Compact. Chain is the SRAM 10 speed (can't remember the number) nice looking, well made, easy to put on and take off.
Max Flite gel flow saddle. Like a living room chair!
Strengths: Workmanship of the highest quality. Light weight, strength. Ease of installation and tuning. Shifting is crisp and precise, but requires slightly more muscle than the 105s (which many describe as "mushy" anyway).
Weaknesses: Rear derailleur's barrel adjuster contains a threaded aluminum ferrule, with a hex bolt attached. This unit already got cross threaded on me, and I anticipate future issues with it. Suggest order a few spares to keep in hand.
This review is for the shifters and derailleurs only. Installed them this weekend, to replace my old 105s. Got new 2010 shifters and derailleurs for $450 on eBay, which is less than many places charge for 105s. Was immediately impressed with the quality of workmanship on the Force components. Springs are much stronger than the 105s. Shifters noticeably lighter in weight. The 105s would flop all around when turning the crank backwards; the Force stays rock steady. Installation was very straightforward, no gotchas or pitfalls. The included documentation is printed in seemingly every language that has ever existed, but does not contain enough detail to be useful to any given reader. The pictures are clear, and many are in color though. Finally you get the idea, you just have to read between the lines.
Weaknesses: Now I know why they call the group FORCE - it takes a good bit of FORCE to upshift.
This is for 2010 shifting system (shifters + derailleurs). This is my first-impression review, after about 100 miles on it. Basis for comparison is old DA 7800. Overall, I find the New Force very smooth, precise, comfortable, and ergonomic. Good looking, as well. It didn't take long to get used to the unique shifting action. My only criticism is the upshift, where you push past the single-click point to reverse the direction of the der., takes quite a bit of force (no pun intended). It is not difficult, it just requires a noticeably greater amount of force to operate on the upshift than Shimano DA - for this reason, it is hard to give it a full "5," so I am splitting this review between a "4" value and "5" overall. The inner shift paddles also have a smooth, nice pivoting action that allows you to easily bring them in toward the bars so you can maintain a good grip on your road bar while shifting (e.g. on downhills). Build quality is high. The brake levers are very solid and stiff, and nicely contoured, so with a nice and solid feel. The brake hoods make for a very nice, flat hand surface (reminds me of Campy, which I have not owned). I can't really comment on the value directly in terms of bang-for-buck, since it was included in the price of the S1 ($2700).
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