Best Bibshorts 7000 miles pad excelent and still comfortable shorts are showing some sign of ware but still ride great and still in use and found a new pair at Likbike and ordered them sent back to Classic Cycling Castelli Endurance are not worth $50 Bucks pad nothing and leg grippes so bad., Sent back to Compitive Cyclist, Pearl Isumi,Santi Max Honor Bib Giordana G Shield Bibs fit was so bad pads bad.Not worth the price or fit or performance over priced over rated.Descente how to make Bibs for lasting fit and comfort. Never had a proble with ski clothing eather.

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Best long lasting comfortable true to size.