1. Even assuming that the rider does not own a car, which is mostly untrue, a bike causes nowhere near the damage as a car or truck to the road surface, and therefore does not need to continue to the road maintainence that the gasoline tax funds. Road construction is funded separately, and everybody pays for that.As far as I'm concerned, they do not:
1. pay road tax
2. pay for registration
3. pay for inspection
4. pay for insurance
So they do not deserve to be on the same public road that I have to do all of the above to be able to drive my car on.
2. Because registration would totally have a point. Or not.
3. Inspection for what? Emissions? Come on over here and check my emissions while I teabag your forehead.
4. Yeah, so when one comes out of nowhere and t-bones your car, totaling it...oh wait.
News flash: every cyclist I know, with the possible exception of Entwerfer, owns a car as well. I own two. I pay for all of the above. And I also commute by bike, on the roads that I am legally, ethically, and financially entitled to ride, drive, walk, or drive my ****in' stagecoach on to my heart's content.
Edit: #3 is pretty obscene, innit? If you want me to change it, mods, I will, but please don't make me.
Wow. Your statement is just as offensive as the majority of the VW forum statements. Your justifying their moronic statements by playing to their level.*A-Train* said:I hate that forum. A bunch of self-righteous ex-ricer douchebags. My car forum (Focaljet.com) has a cycling thread that's 67 pages long and full of helpful enthusiasts. We're even considering our own jerseys.
"Ricer" has come to be a pretty generic term for people who mod their sport compacts for looks and not performance--doesn't necessarily mean Asian cars or people. A lot of people would consider the guys on Focaljet ricers, too. :lol: The VWVortex Lounge actually pulls from a bunch of other forums so it's not just VW folks (and I happen to like both VWVortex and Focaljet, even though I drive an old muscle car and generally post on muscle car boards). I actually posted this link cause there are a good number of people sticking up for cycling and cyclists. And with gas prices on the rise a surprising number of auto enthusiasts are considering bikes for some of their transportation needs. But yes it is good to know what some drivers think of us...dwwheels said:Wow. Your statement is just as offensive as the majority of the VW forum statements. Your justifying their moronic statements by playing to their level.
I live out in a large farming area that is loaded with Ford/Chevy/Dodge pickups. While riding I am regularly treated like crap by the drivers of these large trucks trying to run me off the road, yelling find some sidewalk (nothing but farmland), and stepping on the gas and blowing their diesel fumes into my face as they go by me.
With my experiences I would have the right to hate pickups and their drivers but that would be foolish of me to think they are all bad. I hope you truly didn't mean to group all VW drivers and Asian produced items due to a small sampling of ignorant people on a forum.
innergel said:Newsflash!!! Car drivers don't like cyclists on the road! Full story at 10pm.
I'm all for cyclists riding reasonably and obeying traffic laws, but the "If we obey the law, then they will respect us" is pretty much a red herring argument. Despite what some drivers claim, drivers with bad attitudes hate cyclists because we are there, not because some of us break laws.velodog said:Maybe if we all stop and put our foot down the next time we come to a stop sign all the people who drive cars and trucks will like us and treat us like equals.