Best of recollection:moschika said:is there any difference in the frames of the 2002 lemonds? say between the Alp d'huez, zurich and MJ? is it only the components that are different?
lower grade meaning what? i'm not familiar with the 853 hierarchy.Crankist said:Best of recollection:
A deH is a lower grade of 853 than the Z. MJ is a Z w/DA-OK?
nmnmnmnmandy02 said:a lot of the lemonds are now spine bikes half ti or steel and the other half carbon
If I recall correctly, that statement is a little incorrect: the Alpe d'Huez had an 853 frontmoschika said:lower grade meaning what? i'm not familiar with the 853 hierarchy.
thanks.
The Alpe had an 853 main frame, 525 head tube and seat and chain stays...orange_julius said:If I recall correctly, that statement is a little incorrect: the Alpe d'Huez had an 853 front
triangle and 521 rear triangle. The Zurich is full-853 steel.
There's a noticable difference in weight and stiffness between the 853 select and 853 pro frames. My zurich is alot lighter and stiffer than my Buenos Aires. The main triangle is butted and shaped, purportedly it increases stiffness at the bottom bracket, and I'd have to agree.russw19 said:The Alpe had an 853 main frame, 525 head tube and seat and chain stays...
But the Zurich and MJ are not actually "full" 853 frames... they use Reynolds 725 seat and chain stays. They shape the chain and seat stays to make the frames ride better, and it's really hard to manipulate 853. So they use 725 for the stays instead.
Russ
aaroncvc said:There's a noticable difference in weight and stiffness between the 853 select and 853 pro frames. My zurich is alot lighter and stiffer than my Buenos Aires. The main triangle is butted and shaped, purportedly it increases stiffness at the bottom bracket, and I'd have to agree.