[CFBlue]

That lever is really cool!!! I must have it, specially for that third aero position.

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[Anonymous135]

The lever is even cooler in person. Video and photos don't do it 100% justice. Full grouppo pricing might be a shocker though...

 

[CFBlue]

I'm still not sure why Campy decided they need to go to 11 speeds? I'm still doing great on 9 speeds. Just another gimmick...

 

[Anonymous181]

Campy could have done the awesome new lever without the 11th gear... whatever. Still a cool and functional kit.

 

[Anonymous182]

I can't believe anyone is trying to hype up that hand position. On shimano hoods you can alreay do that and people including myself do. The moment campy can do it as well its a feature. Before campy users were always saying its a gimmick of shimano.

Also did anyone notice he said you need a new chain tool? Sure its not a big deal to buy one but adding complications like this is rediculous.

 

[Anonymous183]

3rd hand position? didnt shimano invent that. campy ergonomics are terrible and the down shift thumb lever is annoying and in the way. check out the new 7900 shimano. thats the real deal.

11 sp gimmick. isnt it funny when you go more gears in the rear its seems cool, but do a triple up front, youre a wimp.

 

[Anonymous58]

better use 9 or 10 speed after all what's the 11th one for...?
I should change my shifter also, shouldn't I?

 

[Anonymous184]

I'm a little dissapointed in Campy coming out with 11 speeds in the back - afraid it will wear out and be prone to breaking. I think that there are so many areas they could focus on improving, like front shifting (which I believe is weak for all manufacturers). An extra cog in the back does very little for me.

 

[Anonymous185]

His watch is pretty fancy.

 

[Anonymous186]

The "third position" wasn't invented by Shimano, it was a likely adaptation of an large cannon looking apparatus sticking off the front of their handlebars. The reason they are mentioning it as a viable hand position is because they actually made the hood contour to your hand so your not just holding on to a block of rubber, it is as natural a fit as if you were resting on them in the other position.

11-tooth? I guess its a little premature to call it a gimmick until we ride it. I always feel the hardest shift is my 11 to 12 tooth shift. Man! I gotta be going 5 mph faster to make that one viable.

My biggest gripe...I wish they were able to eliminate all of the play in both the front and rear shifts. Its really a long push before it even engages, it shouldn't have any slack in a perfect world.

 

[Anonymous187]

I'm intrigued to see how the 3rd aero position actually feels. Although I do agree with the fact that Shimano invented the third position, having ridden it for almost a decade now I can also say that it's always been painfully uncomfortable to ride there for any given period of time, even though it feels like a very natural position to be in (mind you this doesn't even include constantly hitting your thumbs on shift cables). Let's see if Campy actually did it right.

 

[Anonymous188]

To address the complaint that Campagnolo should have put out the new lever shape in 10v, they did.
It's called Centaur. As much as some of us may hate to put something on our bikes that does not say "RECORD", those who want to try the new levers can do it, without replacing their entire drive train.

The thumb shifter has always seemed in a great position for me, but I have small hands and prefer to ride farther back on my hoods. Also, Ergopower was designed to run on Italian drops, which put the thumb shifter in the perfect position for sprinting. If you want to talk about gimmicks, let's talk about "anatomic" bars...

Also, front shifting for Campy has always been better than everything else due to its ability to trim. The Ergopower has a full 8 clicks of trim.

On Shimano:
7900 is leagues better than 7800. The new lever shape is great compared to what it was, and the new levers and sub-routed cables are far more pleasing to the eye,
BUT:
*The shift lever is still the brake lever.
*It's still not re-build-able/
*The chain and cassette wear out mid season.

To quote Spinal Tap:
"But these go to 11."

 

[Anonymous189]

Sounds like they copied the SRAM levers. I've been riding mine in the "3rd position" all the time and didn't know it was something special.

 

[Anonymous190]

I am not sure if I could improve my performance and my riding confort in my races. The only thing i am sure is that i will spend more money soon with this kind of materials. I feel that there is too much effort in cable based design components. Why nobody wanted to follow the MAVIC electronic shift? I believe that there is a marketing hole.

 

[Anonymous191]

11? Hmmm. I did the 3rd position. 11 is getting a lil wild for me. But if the pros need it, I better upgrade too. That will help while on my 40 mile club ride.

 

[Anonymous192]

i totaly agree, cable based sifting systems have been improved to the max, there is nothing left to do to them and the whole system is dated. I think that the big names need to start looking at dfferent methods, either hub gears or electronic shift. Mavic Mektronic worked great- i dont know why it wnt out of fashion. Anyway, im looking forward to dura ace electronic.
With the third position- i beieve shimano did invent it, but by mistake,to really make it their own they shoud have contoured the hoods for the anatomic fit too, they could have done this years ago.

 

[Anonymous193]

love the 11speed, I have been on campagnolo since '91, I think the ergonomics are better with campagnolo, however the new dura-ace also look pretty cool. and for those who say why the extra cog??? well its the same mentality that said why a derailleur? its easy enough to flip your wheel arround. move on boys its called technology!!!!

 

[Anonymous194]

Sure it cool its campy. 11th gear to to non-professional won't matter. 11th gear just means you have to buy a whole new drive train once again more fuel for the campy marketers sell sell sell!

 

[Anonymous195]

Very nice, but I'm still happy with my Centaur. Saw Bobke talking about the new Dura Ace and you would think he was being payed big buck by Shimano for what he was saying. Dura Ace is finally introducing carbon to their components and he makes it sound as if this is the latest thing, he could of said they were finally getting on the band wagon with their concealed brake and shift lever cables, and those new canirings look as if they were lifted off of a department store bike.