how dead set are you on a quality steel frame?? I`ve always thaught that if your going for the frame itself.. go for the glory version of the material of your choice.. this case.. 853 reynolds... of high modulus CF.. or 6061-T6 allum. granted..Jamis seems to really know what their doing with their tubes.. heck.. its gotten me thinking of a satelite as im sorta in the market for an entry level road bike lol