Anyone know what color the frameset will be offered in?
Because his was actually made by Cannondale. One of the last affordable bikes that was actually made by the manufacturer. The new ones while of comparable quality will be made in an Asian factory. When they're done with their run of CAAD10s for the week, then they do a run of Scotts, Fujis, or whatever else the same factory is producing. Everyone's moved the crummy massed produced production model. The CAAD9 was made in-house by Cannondale in the USA.CdaleNut said:if they r gonna be a pos..........then why do you own one just one year prior ?
Quality will be the same, and the bike will be good and probably better than the CAAD9. My issus are as follows:cryoplasm said:Chinese/Taiwanese/Asian made, Cannondale specs. What is the difference? No difference at all. The source of the design comes from Cannondale. The source of the design for a Scott will come from Scott and so on.. Not entirely clear what one of the posters thinks is being lost here.
So many discussions most of which go completely off the wall. Your patriotism, whilst noble, is totally misplaced.
How do you know? Perhaps it could be a better product at same price.intence said:Quality will be the same, and the bike will be good and probably better than the CAAD9. My issus are as follows:
-Presumably it's cheaper to make the frame in Asia (otherwise why bother), but we aren't seeing pricing come down much (if at all)
Your point being? Again do you know actually know for sure? You're making assumptions, taking the premise as fact and drawing conclusions.intence said:-When using a third-party factory to manufacture for you, they get insight into your manufacturing process. If you have a step which saves time and makes the end product better, chances are they'll incorporate it into the manufacturing of products for your competitors as well (why would the factory do some in a less efficient way if it didn't have to). So you lose some of the edge that you might have by doing your own proprietary manufacturing (whether in the US or overseas).
It's not their own factory, I don't know for sure, but it's a reasonable assumption. To my knowledge, the only major company with their own factory is Giant. There are many online guides stating the various producers (Giant, TopKey, Ideal, etc.) and who they produce for. With the exception of Giant, i'm fairly certain that all the other big bike companies have outsourced production done by third party factories.cryoplasm said:How do you know? Perhaps it could be a better product at same price.
Your point being? Again do you know actually know for sure? You're making assumptions, taking the premise as fact and drawing conclusions.
Maybe it is their own factory.
Interesting you should be so concerned about some company's trade secrets when there are far more imperative issues to deal with closer to home.
Trade secrets are part and parcel of almost any game.
The debate is pointless.
I don't think the CAAD10 will suck at all. It's just a shame that they're not being made in Beford anymore (and we wonder why the Unemployment rate is going through the roof), it's not like Cannondale had any problem selling them.j_welford said:We should just start a thread for those who understand every question concerning a CAAD10 (whether of color, components, geometry, etc) to read: "Hey, I was wondering, how bad will the CAAD10's suck since they have moved production overseas?"
It's my understanding that the Chinese / Taiwanese factories are masters of Carbon, and make an excellent frame. They probably had for more experience in one of those large factories compared to Cannondale who was just moving from Alu. to Carbon at the time.Devastator said:Sarcastic, 10 Super trumps all Super that preceded it by a mile. There was lotta **** talked about Chinese made frames.
Edit:wrote that wrong