i'm quite open to the new look ergos... it will be an interesting option....
but what i really wanna know is... any new wheels for 2009? the current line up has been going for a while... i'm looking to pull the trigger, but can hold off if there are some new interesting developments specifically in the area of taller profile alu clincher...
Top of the list is "Two way fit" meaning you can go tubs or clincher on same wheel, available in Eurus and Shamal Ultra Ti's, then there is the new "Ultra Two" for Hyperons and Bora and there will also be a clincher version of Shamal Ultra Golds.
frikken awesome... didn't see the tubbie/clincher thing coming !!
what i really wanna know is, has any of the profiles changed? to me it seems that there is a gap in the line up... nothing b/w a 26mm front and the bora 50mm.... any chance campy is bringing back the 30mm aero profile or similar?
They have done a good job of hiding things - surprised everyone by the 11s and if that wasn't enough did a double wammy with super record. As for the profiles - don't think anything has changed, perhaps just lighter as its supposed to be around the same price.
We're talking about product that was privately introduced to Campy's worldwide subsidiaries this past week for 2009.
Makes sense why you haven't seen it for sale yet, no?
The Super Record group apparently has no silver - all black. So the rear and front portions of the rear derailleur have been blacked out, as has the clamp for the front derailleur (finally - I pushed for this for years when I worked there).
I am with yankspan on this, I heard its going on sale as of Monday to distributors with deliveries set for september so I guess come October they will be hitting shops. Yank I know super record is lighter and around 20% more expensive than record but do you know how much lighter?
I am with yankspan on this, I heard its going on sale as of Monday to distributors with deliveries set for september so I guess come October they will be hitting shops. Yank I know super record is lighter and around 20% more expensive than record but do you know how much lighter?
Somebody is going to have to call a stop to it somewhere. It's either narrower chains and more finicky drivetrains, or wheels with more dish, or a new rear hub width standard. None of those appeal to me in the least.
Apparently the hub remains unchanged so 11speed cassettes will fit the old 9/10s hubs. As for chain width I think campy can afford to go narrower, afterall both the chain and cassettes outlast shimano by quite a margin and is stronger too. On the other hand Record used to be the only groupset to land under 2kg till Sram Red came out and by the sound of it the new DA will also be below 2kg so definitely the time to lower the bar.
Apparently the hub remains unchanged so 11speed cassettes will fit the old 9/10s hubs. As for chain width I think campy can afford to go narrower, afterall both the chain and cassettes outlast shimano by quite a margin and is stronger too. On the other hand Record used to be the only groupset to land under 2kg till Sram Red came out and by the sound of it the new DA will also be below 2kg so definitely the time to lower the bar.
I've got the '08 CT/STD FD and it's got plenty of room to move further to the left to shift down to the 34T little ring. The worst that could happen is it might require 5 clicks instead of 4, but that's still possible with one sweep of the finger lever.
I actually had to narrow the cage on some of my triple FDs to use the UN chain (on a triple crank. The FD was resting on my 31.8mm seat tube, but not shifting to the little ring. A little persuasion in a vice fixed those FDs. I'll try a triple FD with an 11 speed chain on a compact and report. My guess is it will shift it fine and require less trimming. It works with the 5.9mm chain.
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