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So I was cleaning up my '09 Super6 last Sat after a (non particularly bumpy) ride when I noticed a chip on the paint in the rear break support bridge. Nearly had a heart attack as I baby this bike all the time.

What do you reckon? Just cosmetic or more serious? I'll take it to the dealer I got it from anyway for a closer inspection, but I want to hear your views.

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Take a magnifing glass and inspect it closer. From this pic it could go either way. Take ur finger or something made out of plastic and press down hard around the area. Carbon when damaged will give and become soft. If it still feels solid ur good to go...Just cosmetic...
 

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just use the front brake..:-0

like the person said above take you fingernail and see if you can get it into the crack, or if it is soft.

if damaged send it to Calfee for an easy fix..
 

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just use the front brake..:-0

like the person said above take you fingernail and see if you can get it into the crack, or if it is soft.

if damaged send it to Calfee for an easy fix..
Take a coin and tap around to see if you hear a difference in the tone that it makes. Tap on the affected area and around it.

Why send it to Calfee? Go to your LBS and see if you can get a warranty claim and get a new '11 SuperSix. Calfee is the last resort if they won't warranty it.
 

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ahhh good call, was assuming he bought it second hand, as that is the usual reaction if frame is dust. original owners just go damn, good thing i have a back up, guess c'dale will have to warranty it and upgrade his frame to a hi-mod supersix;-)
 

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Can I be the first one to notice he's got his Conti GP4000 installed backwards...?

(Hope the sitch turns out in your favor, LeDom!)
 

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Can I be the first one to notice he's got his Conti GP4000 installed backwards...?

(Hope the sitch turns out in your favor, LeDom!)
Errrhhh.....the Contis are installed properly. That's the back wheel you're seeing, right hand side (drive side).

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It's almost impossible to tell without either sanding it down to the bare carbon (not advised, will certainly destroy your warranty) or X-raying it (not really possible unless you work at a college with a materials science department). The tapping method is a good indicator though. Because the chip is round and doesn't appear to have any "spidering", chances are it is not a "fatal" defect. I'm guessing what is exposed is a coat of primer, and that looks intact too, so that is also a good sign. However it looks like there is some cracking in the paint above the main chip. That could just be due to stresses in the paint, or from damage to the underlying carbon.

Definitely take this to your local C'dale dealer. I've only heard wonderful things about their customer service. For example my system six has a crack in the clear coat that apparently occurred during delivery. I freaked out but the rep said that if it turned out to be a damaged frame I could warranty it no questions asked because it was already documented (it's on the top tube, right where the bars could hit it in a crash). The crack hasn't grown at all so I'm happy that the bike is okay, but kind of sad that a super six isn't happening in the near future...
 

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Thanks. Called the dealer and they said to take it in. They also mentioned they might need to x-ray the frame.
It will take a few days, I'll let you know how it went
 

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Take a coin and tap around to see if you hear a difference in the tone that it makes. Tap on the affected area and around it.

Why send it to Calfee? Go to your LBS and see if you can get a warranty claim and get a new '11 SuperSix. Calfee is the last resort if they won't warranty it.
Haa the coin trick. Had a frame pass this test with flying colors yet the frame broke in a race the very next day! Maybe we tapped too hard! :D

I agree about Calfee being a last resort, they charge almost as much as buying a new frame!
 

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It will take a few days, I'll let you know how it went
Since your ride is headed to the paddock, see if they can flip that tire around for you while it's up on the lift ... <grin>

(Seriously, I swear the 'more angled' tread should be forward in the rotation so it hits the ground first and 'wedges' away the moisture. The way I see it the less angled tread is forward, so sub-optimal. At least I have my Conti's mounted that-away.)

Good luck with the warranty claim!
 

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Since your ride is headed to the paddock, see if they can flip that tire around for you while it's up on the lift ... <grin>

(Seriously, I swear the 'more angled' tread should be forward in the rotation so it hits the ground first and 'wedges' away the moisture. The way I see it the less angled tread is forward, so sub-optimal. At least I have my Conti's mounted that-away.)

Good luck with the warranty claim!
I'll post a pic of the "Rotation direction" indicator on the side wall for you....maybe you should check yours....
 

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I'll post a pic of the "Rotation direction" indicator on the side wall for you
THERE IS A ROTATION INDICATOR !?!?!

Damn, I don't want to have to remount these puppies... arrrrrgh!

[thanks for the tip, LeDom. I'm about to wheel home, I'll peep my sidewalls as soon as I get to my steed...]
 

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ha, this made me look at my Conti's and luckily, by chance, I mounted them correctly. You really have to look for that little arrow
 

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mounting those tires when brand new are always near impossible, however now that it has been stretched, you will be surprised how easy it to get it off and back in again.
 

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THERE IS A ROTATION INDICATOR !?!?!

Actually, mine are on right. And it's just like I thought...the more angled 'treads' (if you can call them that) that are not curvy are forward. That means that LeDom's are backwards. Has... to... be.

Now don't let Cannondale find out. They will say that means you were throwing up loose road trash the "wrong way" thereby operating the bicycle outside of design parameters, which would be cause to deny your claim...

Hey, it could happen!
 

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The tire direction shouldn't matter
The tread on road tires serves no purpose other than decorative - it makes people feel warm and fuzzy
 

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The tire direction shouldn't matter
The tread on road tires serves no purpose other than decorative - it makes people feel warm and fuzzy
Except they are GPs and there's an arrow that indicates the correct direction and among cyclist it "does" mater.
 

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From sheldonbrown.com:
Tread Directionality

Some tires have an asymmetrical tread, for instance "V" shaped tread blocks that could be oriented with the point of the "V" facing forward > or backward <. The question then arises, which way should they face?
Road Applications

With tires for road use, it really doesn't matter, since tire tread patterns serve no function on hard surfaces.
 

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LeDomestique said:
So I was cleaning up my '09 Super6 last Sat after a (non particularly bumpy) ride when I noticed a chip on the paint in the rear break support bridge. Nearly had a heart attack as I baby this bike all the time.

What do you reckon? Just cosmetic or more serious? I'll take it to the dealer I got it from anyway for a closer inspection, but I want to hear your views.

thanks
I had a similar chip on the hour glass stay and my LBS said it's just cosmetic beside I don't want to give up my system for a minor problem.
 
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