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I haven't been overseas in a while. What an eye opener.

I went through airports in Australia and Papua New Guinea. Not once did I have to take off my shoes or have my nads groped or be required to "opt out" of anything. No one asked me to step into a porno scanner. I didn't have to wait in line. I had to take my laptop out once. The Australians were concerned about the wood items I brought in, but I had been given a heads up by some of the expats in Rabaul, and had a fumigation certificate at the ready, which made the customs lady very happy. She was a little skeptical when I put "consultant" down in the occupation part on the customs card, and asked me what kind of consulting, I told her what I did, and she got concerned that I had muddy boots and tools, and I told her I actually spent most of my time on boats. She seemed to buy that.

The airlines were nice. I flew Hawaiian from Honolulu to Brisbane, then Air Niuguini from Brisbane to Port Moresby and then Rabaul. The planes were clean, spacious (plenty of room for my feet and my bags), there were plenty of free snacks and drinks, and meals (even on the 4 hour flight from Port Moresby to Brisbane). My one checked bag was free and had a 30 kg weight limit (about 72 lb).

Then I got to the US.

I had to do the stupid human tricks, beginning with waiting for an hour in line to get through the government checkpoint, including taking my shoes off and getting a groping (I won't go through the porn scanners).

The worst was the airline, Delta. Seats were small and close together, there were no meals served (except for the ones they were happy to sell you at overinflated prices), $25 for a checked bag PLUS and extra $100 for it being 10 lbs over the stupid low 50lb weight limit.

To top that off, the TSA goons stole stuff out of my suitcase.

At least customs missed the two packages of Kinder Surprise eggs I brought back with me :D
 

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Then again, no one in Australia has ever boarded an airplane ... no, three airplanes ... hijacked them and flown them into buildings.

For me, the worst are the TSA people. They are rude. They enjoy hassling people because they're basically the dregs of society who now have uniforms and the power to do so.

I once went through security and forgot that I had left a small pocket knife in my backpack. Of course they confiscate it. So I get to the terminal and the flight gets cancelled. I decide to bag it and go home. So I walk over to the security counter to the guy who took my knife 20 minutes ago and explained that I was leaving the airport, so could I please have my knife back. He says, no we can't do that. I said look -- it's right there in that box. I can see it. Can't do it, move along now. So I start walking away and he has the nerve to yell "have a good day".
 

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The airlines were nice. I flew Hawaiian from Honolulu to Brisbane, then Air Niuguini from Brisbane to Port Moresby and then Rabaul. The planes were clean, spacious (plenty of room for my feet and my bags), there were plenty of free snacks and drinks, and meals (even on the 4 hour flight from Port Moresby to Brisbane). My one checked bag was free and had a 30 kg weight limit (about 72 lb).

Then I got to the US.
Learn something new every day. Here I was thinking Hawaii was in the US.
 

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Yeah, the fact that the "secure" airports have rampant thievery going on, and those people can get the stuff out of the airport after they steal it always makes me think the whole security thing is pretty much a charade.

They seem to arrest baggage handlers (who in theory are screened) about once a month at La Guardia and Kennedy.

The only person I know that called it right was a friend after 9-11 who deduced there was about to be a huge run on any kind of security equipment, and bought stock in the companies that were the main suppliers to TSA. Let's just say that he is living better than I am...
 

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Learn something new every day. Here I was thinking Hawaii was in the US.
That's where all the hilarity began. My Delta flight was Honolulu to Atlanta.

Hawaiian Air is obviously a US carrier, but they don't fly to Memphis. I'm referring to the airlines that fly in the continental US and the ones I usually get when flying here and there.
 

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Then again, no one in Australia has ever boarded an airplane ... no, three airplanes ... hijacked them and flown them into buildings.
Then again, no one in Australia has dropped a shitload of bombs on just about every country in the Middle East, nor have they destablized perfectly stable governments, causing endless chaos.

I will have to say that people in PNG really like Americans and America. I was told that numerous times by cab drivers, etc. I would imagine it's because we haven't bombed the **** out of them yet.
 

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Then again, no one in Australia has dropped a shitload of bombs on just about every country in the Middle East, nor have they destablized perfectly stable governments, causing endless chaos.

I will have to say that people in PNG really like Americans and America. I was told that numerous times by cab drivers, etc. I would imagine it's because we haven't bombed the **** out of them yet.
Actually the Australian Air force participated in bombing missions in the Iraq war in 2003. They have also participated in missions in Afghanistan, anti-piracy missions in Somalia and are involved in strikes against ISIS.
 

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Actually the Australian Air force participated in bombing missions in the Iraq war in 2003. They have also participated in missions in Afghanistan, anti-piracy missions in Somalia and are involved in strikes against ISIS.
Yeah but who does the rest of the world primarily associate with those actions? Not Australia. Their peak number of deployed troops in the 2003 war was just over 500.
 

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"I will have to say that people in PNG really like Americans and America. I was told that numerous times by cab drivers, etc. I would imagine it's because we haven't bombed the **** out of them yet."

We did bomb the bejeezus out of Rabaul for several years - a little over 70 years ago. Of course, we were not as nasty as the folks occupying that portion of PNG at the time...

What was it you were doing there?
 

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The real question is: Why can we not get Kinder Surprise Eggs in the US!

...must be a government conspiracy....
The government thinks you and your kids are too stupid to eat them without also choking on the toy, even though the toy is encased in plastic and obvious as hell.

At least that's what I've heard anyway :)
 

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"I will have to say that people in PNG really like Americans and America. I was told that numerous times by cab drivers, etc. I would imagine it's because we haven't bombed the **** out of them yet."

We did bomb the bejeezus out of Rabaul for several years - a little over 70 years ago. Of course, we were not as nasty as the folks occupying that portion of PNG at the time...

What was it you were doing there?
Looking for some of those people who were bombing but didn't make it back out.

The team was made up of divers from the army and navy, MSC civilian mariners, civilian employees of DPAA, and one independent contractor (me).

Navy Divers Support POW/MIA Mission at WWII Crash Sites > U.S. Pacific Command > News
 

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USA is known for it's "customer is always right" attitude but that gets consideration gets flushed down the crapper on our airplanes and in the airports.

Last trip to Europe was marked by smooth efficient security and custom lines and arriving back in Dulles, at times, felt like a 3rd world country. You go to the high tech kiosk to scan your passport and fill out the customs form (which you were instructed to fill out on the plane) , but then you get in another line to see the customs agent to do the process again, like in the old days. After that you get your bags and get in another, even longer line, which is a free for all, to see another agent.

I think they do that on purpose so they can keep you in a holding pen while your passport number goes through some screening. At any rate I thought it was an embarrassing entry process for our country.
 

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The government thinks you and your kids are too stupid to eat them without also choking on the toy, even though the toy is encased in plastic and obvious as hell.

At least that's what I've heard anyway :)
I'm guessing it isn't the consumer that's being "protected". I'd bet it's more because they already know when some dumbazz actually does eat the toy, said dumbazz will sue the carp outta somebody else... and win.
 

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If you think that it's bad now, just think what it might be like after the next election.

Ever had to wait to be cleared by a DNA test?

PS. Everyone knows not to bring a knife to an airport.
 

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Then again, no one in Australia has dropped a shitload of bombs on just about every country in the Middle East, nor have they destablized perfectly stable governments, causing endless chaos.

I will have to say that people in PNG really like Americans and America. I was told that numerous times by cab drivers, etc. I would imagine it's because we haven't bombed the **** out of them yet.
Since you decided to go political, allow me to respond. You went with the ol' "we had it comin'". These Al Queda *******s were not psychotic upper middle class killers who were members of a death cult, no they were aggrieved freedom fighters with legitimate motives. Also, attacking military targets with guided munitions = flying commercial planes full of passengers into office buildings, it's a completely legitimate response and morally equivalent. Those two friends of mine who died in the towers had it coming. I narrowly missed being there, too bad. I had it coming as well.

Also, Saddam and the Taliban = "stable" in your mind. Got it.

People spout this bullshit so frequently that it's just accepted. Not me.
 

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That's where all the hilarity began. My Delta flight was Honolulu to Atlanta.

Hawaiian Air is obviously a US carrier, but they don't fly to Memphis. I'm referring to the airlines that fly in the continental US and the ones I usually get when flying here and there.
yeah I know. Was just giving you a hard time.

I agree, generally speaking, US air travel is a bit of a joke. Last time I was in JFK I had to sleep there and woke up to a steady stream of water from a hole in the roof.

One way to improve your image of US airlines and air travel is to book a few Air France flights.
 

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I was getting a bit of a hard time for not having changed my driver's license name to my married name. John would get tickets under the same last name.

Usually it wasn't too much of a problem, since I'd show my work ID, but last time I didn't have my work ID on me. So I got a pat-down, drug swab and a bag search. Have since updated my license.

Have also had a jar of almond butter confiscated. Bastards! (Although, the woman who did that was apologetic and nice about it at least.)
 

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You want a nanny state, you got a nanny state. YOu want the gubment to take care of everything and they are. Quit yer bit chen. Sad thing is many want them to take on even more responsiblity.

Gubment has no common sense, only rules. Rules that the uneducated staffers can follow by the letter, or at least the letters they can read. Zero tolerance has been preached and has trumped any last bastion of common sense.
 

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