The technique is as follows: First find the proper conditions - gradual downhill or quartering tail wind is best, but you can do it as long as you can coast. Move to the back of the group. Grab the handlebar tops with your "up wind" hand. Stand on your downwind ("pee side") leg and lean the bike into the wind, while keeping in a straight line. With your free hand, simultaneously pull down your shorts and hold the "equipment." Aim about 45 degrees ahead of "straight off to the side" and apply some extra pressure to the bladder. Watch where you are going and concentrate on steering - do not watch where the pee stream is going. Some claim to pull up the leg of the shorts, but I guess my shorts are too tight on the thighs to make this possible. Bib shorts add to the challenge. Practice this several times and well before a race or group ride situation. It may seem impossible, but it is and you have to believe! Speed is of the essence and you will still have to chase to get back to the group, but it beats the heck out of stopping. Also, having this skill allows you to stay properly hydrated, which can be a huge advantage over those who are restricting fluids so they don't have to pee during the race.krishna said:Now that I have your attention :=) I know what the protocol is for the Pros but what do lowly cat 4/5's do? In my area we have a newish race that is nearly 100 miles long. Never really had to think about it before since most races around here are in the 40-60 mile range (for the lower categories). So how does this work, if at all? Does the group spontaeously decide to take a break? Do race organizers care?