Yeah, I get tired of the "must have crashed it/leaned it against something/knocked it over/jumped on it/beat it with a hammer" crowd.Chef Tony said:yeah, it's real solid now! And that 'something else'- I'm guessing its called a manufacturing defect.
Seems like the carbon failure rate is higher from a casual observer viewpoint. Could that perception be skewed by the fact there is so much carbon out there? I don't think market share is the issue but would look to those with more industry experience.PlatyPius said:Yes, other materials fail too; just not as often as carbon.
do things to their equipment that they don't confess to doing in my experience (hopping curbs for instance), kids sometimes do things in garages they don't admit as well...PlatyPius said:Yeah, I get tired of the "must have crashed it/leaned it against something/knocked it over/jumped on it/beat it with a hammer" crowd.
Sometimes carbon just fails. Pretty frequently, really. Especially if the downtube says Trek or Cervelo, from what I've seen.
Yes, other materials fail too; just not as often as carbon.
I never saw a steel frame fail like that. Only JRA failure I can recall was on a bike that had been built by a newbie builder who didn't braze the BB correctly. The rider continued to ride bike with the cracked BB / seat tube junction for several rides, no prob.Keeping up with Junior said:When steel was real and the only thing were there frequent failures or only on the stupid light bikes?