Update 1/11/2007
I'm posting this as a summary to improve readability. Thanks to all for the support I have received on this matter.
In March 2005 Art Smith, aka Wurm on bikeforums.net and cyclingforums.com, and AJS here, agreed to purchase a Columbus Muscle carbon fork from me for $220. He gave me a story about going through a divorce and custody battle for his daughter, thus he could not pay me the whole amount right then. He asked me to ship the fork first, so I sent it off and he sent me $60 a month later in April 2005 – the same month he was banned here for insulting other people. That’s the only money I've ever seen from him.
Months pasted and emails to him bounced back as undeliverable. Then…in September 2005, I found him posting as Wurm on Bikeforums.net. Note: this is more than FIVE months since I last heard from him. After performing a search on his username, several threads were found where he mentioned purchasing high-end bike parts – so money was not an issue. It sent him a Private Message, then another, and another. Nothing. So to draw him out I posted a thread outing him as a crook. Several thousand hits on the thread later the mods jumped in and forced Art to respond to me via PM – they also deleted the thread since it was causing too much commotion. Art’s story was that he lost my email and didn’t know how to reach me. This is strange since he knew I was on roadbikereview.com and he could have used his alternate account here (set up after he was banned as AJS) to get a hold of me.
His story now was that I “slandered him” thus he will not pay me. He also said he did not have any money – funny how he could have purchased all those parts yet he had no money to pay his debt. I offered to reduce his debt from $160 to $100 and he still refused. Out of frustration, I posted this thread so other people would find out about him. I only posted his name and address AFTER protracted PM’s on bikeforums made it clear that he was never going to pay me, and he started to cuss me out in his reply’s.
I’ve given up all hope of ever seeing the money he owes me. He has no integrity and cannot be trusted.
Update 5/29/2006
Still no money from Mr. Smith. Interestingly, he feels he has been slandered so he won't pay. Kind of funny really. He won't pay me and changes his email address. I root him out on Bike Forums under his user name of Wurm. He agrees that he did not pay me the money. He also states he won't pay because I slandered him while being rooted out. No way to win with this guy. Stay clear.
Update 10/14/2005
Art Smith, aka Wurm on Bike Forums and AJS here, has been posting messages on Bike Forum about how he recently bought an expensive Giro Atmos helmet; this comming from a guy that owes me $160 and has not paid a penny since April!
He claims that I'm smearing his name thus he will not pay me the money he owes me. Keep in mind that I started this thread because more than 6 months had passed since he last paid me anything and he changed his email so I couldn't find him.
His last know address is posted below:
Art Smith
1130 Earl Ave
Schenectady, NY 12309
In his last message he wrote the following:
"You are a liar and a cowardly backstabber. Go f_uck yourself Ed,".
Judge for yourself.
Update 9/18/2005
Wurm/AJS (Art Smith) has contacted me via Private Message on bikeforums.net and has threatened legal action against me. Further he wants to return the fork, now used, if I agree to pay return shipping. I told him the fork is not worth very much anymore so returning it is not a way out at this point.
As a way to get something out of this situation I've offered to reduce the amount of money he owes me to $100. As of now, he is still threatening me unless I remove this post. I will not remove the post but will update it if and when he comes up with the money.
UPDATE 9/21/2005
AJS/Wurm/Art Smith has made it clear that he is not going to pay the money he owes me anytime soon. He has lots of stories about loosing his job, ect. At this point he has had the fork since March, sent a payment in April and paid NOTHING for the last five months. He gives me one excuse after another.
Deal with this guy at your own risk.
Ed
Origional message:
Back in March I sold a Columbus Muscle carbon fork to a frequent poster on this site with the understanding that he would pay me over time as funds allowed. I was sucked in by his story of going through a custody battle with his ex-wife and using up all his money for lawyers.
Long story short, this guy still owes me $160 and has changed his email so I no longer have a way to contact him. Last contact was two months ago when he said he would be sending me some money soon. He was banned from Roadbikereview for insulting other people back in April. He has since moved over to Bikeforums.net where he posts every day. I've sent him several private messages though that site but he does not respond. I also alerted the admin there to keep an eye on him.
Honestly, I understand someone being down on their luck and needing time to work through a debt. It bugs the crap out of me though to see this bozo posting around on Bikeforums.net talking about this and that new bike part he just bought.
The guys name is Art Smith aka "Wurm" on Bikeforums.net.
He went by "AJS" here.
Thanks.
Ed
I'm posting this as a summary to improve readability. Thanks to all for the support I have received on this matter.
In March 2005 Art Smith, aka Wurm on bikeforums.net and cyclingforums.com, and AJS here, agreed to purchase a Columbus Muscle carbon fork from me for $220. He gave me a story about going through a divorce and custody battle for his daughter, thus he could not pay me the whole amount right then. He asked me to ship the fork first, so I sent it off and he sent me $60 a month later in April 2005 – the same month he was banned here for insulting other people. That’s the only money I've ever seen from him.
Months pasted and emails to him bounced back as undeliverable. Then…in September 2005, I found him posting as Wurm on Bikeforums.net. Note: this is more than FIVE months since I last heard from him. After performing a search on his username, several threads were found where he mentioned purchasing high-end bike parts – so money was not an issue. It sent him a Private Message, then another, and another. Nothing. So to draw him out I posted a thread outing him as a crook. Several thousand hits on the thread later the mods jumped in and forced Art to respond to me via PM – they also deleted the thread since it was causing too much commotion. Art’s story was that he lost my email and didn’t know how to reach me. This is strange since he knew I was on roadbikereview.com and he could have used his alternate account here (set up after he was banned as AJS) to get a hold of me.
His story now was that I “slandered him” thus he will not pay me. He also said he did not have any money – funny how he could have purchased all those parts yet he had no money to pay his debt. I offered to reduce his debt from $160 to $100 and he still refused. Out of frustration, I posted this thread so other people would find out about him. I only posted his name and address AFTER protracted PM’s on bikeforums made it clear that he was never going to pay me, and he started to cuss me out in his reply’s.
I’ve given up all hope of ever seeing the money he owes me. He has no integrity and cannot be trusted.
Update 5/29/2006
Still no money from Mr. Smith. Interestingly, he feels he has been slandered so he won't pay. Kind of funny really. He won't pay me and changes his email address. I root him out on Bike Forums under his user name of Wurm. He agrees that he did not pay me the money. He also states he won't pay because I slandered him while being rooted out. No way to win with this guy. Stay clear.
Update 10/14/2005
Art Smith, aka Wurm on Bike Forums and AJS here, has been posting messages on Bike Forum about how he recently bought an expensive Giro Atmos helmet; this comming from a guy that owes me $160 and has not paid a penny since April!
He claims that I'm smearing his name thus he will not pay me the money he owes me. Keep in mind that I started this thread because more than 6 months had passed since he last paid me anything and he changed his email so I couldn't find him.
His last know address is posted below:
Art Smith
1130 Earl Ave
Schenectady, NY 12309
In his last message he wrote the following:
"You are a liar and a cowardly backstabber. Go f_uck yourself Ed,".
Judge for yourself.
Update 9/18/2005
Wurm/AJS (Art Smith) has contacted me via Private Message on bikeforums.net and has threatened legal action against me. Further he wants to return the fork, now used, if I agree to pay return shipping. I told him the fork is not worth very much anymore so returning it is not a way out at this point.
As a way to get something out of this situation I've offered to reduce the amount of money he owes me to $100. As of now, he is still threatening me unless I remove this post. I will not remove the post but will update it if and when he comes up with the money.
UPDATE 9/21/2005
AJS/Wurm/Art Smith has made it clear that he is not going to pay the money he owes me anytime soon. He has lots of stories about loosing his job, ect. At this point he has had the fork since March, sent a payment in April and paid NOTHING for the last five months. He gives me one excuse after another.
Deal with this guy at your own risk.
Ed
Origional message:
Back in March I sold a Columbus Muscle carbon fork to a frequent poster on this site with the understanding that he would pay me over time as funds allowed. I was sucked in by his story of going through a custody battle with his ex-wife and using up all his money for lawyers.
Long story short, this guy still owes me $160 and has changed his email so I no longer have a way to contact him. Last contact was two months ago when he said he would be sending me some money soon. He was banned from Roadbikereview for insulting other people back in April. He has since moved over to Bikeforums.net where he posts every day. I've sent him several private messages though that site but he does not respond. I also alerted the admin there to keep an eye on him.
Honestly, I understand someone being down on their luck and needing time to work through a debt. It bugs the crap out of me though to see this bozo posting around on Bikeforums.net talking about this and that new bike part he just bought.
The guys name is Art Smith aka "Wurm" on Bikeforums.net.
He went by "AJS" here.
Thanks.
Ed