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I need a new saddle. I have tried both a Selle Italia and Brooks saddle and neither were very good on long rides. I have a 12 hour ride coming up in 2007 and the thought of sitting on either of these makes me cringe. I've heard good things about the Specialized Body Geometery saddles, what have you heard? I'm looking for something to fit on my road bike that will give as much comfort as possible for long rides. Thanks.

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links0311 said:
I need a new saddle. I have tried both a Selle Italia and Brooks saddle and neither were very good on long rides. I have a 12 hour ride coming up in 2007 and the thought of sitting on either of these makes me cringe. I've heard good things about the Specialized Body Geometery saddles, what have you heard? I'm looking for something to fit on my road bike that will give as much comfort as possible for long rides. Thanks.

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ain't nothing gonna be "comfortable" after 12 hours on the saddle. I use a Selle SLR and as long as you get out of the saddle once in a while it's tolerable for up to 8-10 hours, but in no way would I say it's "comfortable."
 

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Hard to say...

The hardest thing for me after going though hip surgery was finding a comfortable saddle. What works for me is when I sit down the first time I should not feel any pressure at all. If I do, that little pressure will mean total discomfort around the 4 hour mark. Saddles should feel right from the start, with no break in period. How you set your saddles is very important. What will work for you is no telling. My favorite saddles are my San Marco Regal and Rolls. They have been making these saddles for years and a few of the pros are still using them, going with comfort over weight. They are wide and stable and have the shape that suits a lot of riders. But if one of those will work for you is no telling.
 

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If it's comfort you're looking for, this is the one to beat. The only thing that will hurt after 10 hours is your ego.

http://www.ransbikes.com/vrex.htm# :D

If you still have an intact ego and wish to ride a conventional bike, I recommend the Fizik Aliante. Of course, saddles are as individual as the parts they are connected to, and what works for me might not for you. Good luck!
 

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links0311 said:
I need a new saddle. I have tried both a Selle Italia and Brooks saddle and neither were very good on long rides. I have a 12 hour ride coming up in 2007 and the thought of sitting on either of these makes me cringe. I've heard good things about the Specialized Body Geometery saddles, what have you heard? I'm looking for something to fit on my road bike that will give as much comfort as possible for long rides. Thanks.

Beau
I think everyone has this discussion with their riding buddies at one time or another.
In my case, there is no such thing as an all day saddle. Currently, I'm using a Specialized Alias on my two bikes. But after 80 miles or so on either bike, things start to get pretty uncomfortable. And the Alias is the most comfortable saddle I've owned.
Saddles are very subjective. What works for one, may not work for another.
 

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If you are thinking about the BG's I would go with the Alias as opposed to the Avatar, Alias has a little flatter top and of couse is lighter. Make sure you actually measure any of the seats you are looking at to assure that your sit bones are really on the flat (effective width) of the seat and not the rounded or contoured area.
 

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I think everyone has this discussion with their riding buddies at one time or another.
In my case, there is no such thing as an all day saddle. Currently, I'm using a Specialized Alias on my two bikes. But after 80 miles or so on either bike, things start to get pretty uncomfortable. And the Alias is the most comfortable saddle I've owned.
Saddles are very subjective. What works for one, may not work for another.
Exactly right. I have a friend that has done the 12 hour TT and he did his on a Brooks swift. While I love my Brooks Team Pro, I can't imagine sitting on the Swift for 12 hours.

Everybodies butt sits differently.
 

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It would be more fruitful to discuss ways to increase comfort on long distance rides, rather than to discuss, which should be obvious by now, what would be the ideal saddle.

I will start by saying what I do. I make sure I am wearing my highest-quality and best-padded bib shorts. I use Bag Balm (a product similar to that used to prevent diaper rash in babies) since it helps prevent irritation from skin rubbing on long rides. I also dose myself with 800 mg of ibuprophen a half hour prior to the ride. The ibuprophen helps my joints since it's an anti-inflammatory and pain-reliever. These are the basic things I do to prepare for a long ride with the maximum butt comfort for me. Finally, make sure you are good to go, which means you have trained so you are prepared properly for the long ride and that you have rested well before the ride, including having had time for your body to be fully ready to take the abuse you are about to subject it to.
 

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It would be more fruitful to discuss ways to increase comfort on long distance rides, rather than to discuss, which should be obvious by now, what would be the ideal saddle.

I will start by saying what I do. I make sure I am wearing my highest-quality and best-padded bib shorts. I use Bag Balm (a product similar to that used to prevent diaper rash in babies) since it helps prevent irritation from skin rubbing on long rides. I also dose myself with 800 mg of ibuprophen a half hour prior to the ride. The ibuprophen helps my joints since it's an anti-inflammatory and pain-reliever. These are the basic things I do to prepare for a long ride with the maximum butt comfort for me. Finally, make sure you are good to go, which means you have trained so you are prepared properly for the long ride and that you have rested well before the ride, including having had time for your body to be fully ready to take the abuse you are about to subject it to.
This is probably the best advice you will see on this whole thread...
 

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Agreed, lots of time in the saddle and lots of ibuprofen. My wife and I did the Death Ride this weekend (only completed 4 passes and 100 miles due to downpours) and were on the bikes for something like 8.5 hours and the lube/ibuprofen mix helped a lot.
 

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Selle An-Atomica

Go to

http://www.mcmwin.com/

I put one on my bike on a Thursday, adjusted it and rode 500 miles on a cross state ride the next week. Get the waterproof one. I'll be doing the brevet series next year for Paris-Brest-Paris and the saddle is no longer an issue.

The mixed tandem team on RAAM did the same thing this year—unheard of. Put'em on their bikes the week before the race and rode across the country with no issues.
 

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good points.

last week i spent +/- 7 1/2 hours on the bike, and had no problems/pain whatsoever.

my saddle is a basic fizik aliante, and even more importnatly - i was wearing assos bibs w/chamois cream.

ymmv

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It would be more fruitful to discuss ways to increase comfort on long distance rides, rather than to discuss, which should be obvious by now, what would be the ideal saddle.
 

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same as the best short ride saddle

Too bad it's not the same saddle for everybody. My suggestions, while not the same as the previous poster who advised that the saddle may not be the issue, are similar in nature.

I use BodyGlide rather than Bag Balm. Have tried both and prefer the less greasy feeling of Body Glide. Just personal preference, neither product is particularly expensive and you may like one or the other more.

Lean further forward. On Brevets, many of which take me more than 12 hours, I have lowered my handle bars to take pressure off my butt or raised them if my shoulders hurt. If you have a threadless stem, you can rotate the bars to bring the hoods up and in. The goal is is to find a balance point for your upper body that both seat and shoulders handle comfortably. The reality for me is that when I ride long enough, something is going to hurt and I want to relieve the pain. Leaning further forward takes some weight off my seat and puts it on my hands.

Raise and lower the nose of any saddle you try before you reject it and try new saddles wearing your thinnest chamois. Very small changes can matter more than you would ever imagine. If a saddle fits well you don't need a pillow in your shorts.

If I don't notice the saddle at all when first sit on it I can be pretty sure it will work all day for me. If I notice it at all, I can be pretty sure it will get worse on a long ride. That being said, the San Marco Concor Lite has been the only saddle that I've found to be totally intolerable. With a good position on the bike, I perch, pretty much contented, on all others I have tried. San Marco Concor - the older heavier ones are my favorite which has little to do with what will work for you.
 

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thanks

I want to thank everyone for responding to my thread. I have decided to go with Triker's suggestion and ordered a Selle An-Atomica Titanico LD. It's a really unique made by a small company. After talking with one of their reps I was sold. I cannot wait til it arrives. Customer Service goes a long way and www.mcmwin.com is one of the best. Check out these interesting saddles. The videos are something.

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I understand you've made your decision, and I hope it works out. But, since I know people search these forums, I will still throw in my two cents. I had whatever seat came with my 2006 bike. It was good, but after a few weeks of longer rides I was get numb.

I bought a Specialized Body Geometry one, and it's been great. They measure your seat bones and the cut out seems to help. On my Mountain bike I have a Trek comfort saddle, which is similar to to the body geometry, but with a lot more padding. It's great, but over 4-6 hours it starts to get a bit sore.
 

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I was reading this thread looking for solutions to similar problems mentioned. Likewise, I'm adding my two cents for those who search and read the thread later on.

Last year I tried a Selle An-Atomica saddle. After riding it for 100+ miles over the course of two weeks on two different bikes, one a tandem, I began having small blood clots coming out of my urine. After a few days of that I stopped by the clinic at work. While the doctor began talking about specialists and catheters I was thinking new saddle and give it a little more time. My solution worked. Maybe my problem with the selle an-atomica was user error - it wouldn't be the first time. Either way, be careful. I learned the hard way that the nose of the selle an-atomica saddles can damage your soft tissues. I currently use a Specialized BG Alias that I'm pretty happy with.
 

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Its not about the saddle

Insight Driver said:
It would be more fruitful to discuss ways to increase comfort on long distance rides, rather than to discuss, which should be obvious by now, what would be the ideal saddle...
Excellent list to which I would add making sure your bike fits properly. No saddle will work if your bike does not fit, your chamois sucks, you dont lube up and you skimped on training miles.
 
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