Without looking up all the specs on all those wheels (I know the specs on the BWW and I did look up the Reynolds) I can say that the BWW will beat them on weight and do it with more spokes (which means they probably do it with a lighter rim) and possible price (the Neuvs are heavier but less money).adamssss said:i'm right there with you. these are the wheels i'm look into and i just can't make up my mind.
1. BWW Blackset with cx-ray spokes.
2. Neuvation r28x aero
3. Reynolds Solitude
4. shimano rs80
these are all around $500. Can anyone recommend whats best?
There are true benefits to CX-Rays and they are -peterk said:Is there a true benefit to going with the c-xray spoke or is it purely for looks?
A heavy wheel. Heavier than my OpenPro/Dura Ace/DT Comp/32 spoke wheels.NJRoadie said:I now have a set of Easton EA 70's and love them. They have been reliable and fast. You can get them from Chainreaction for about $425 delivered.
I've no personal knowledge of Neuvation so I can't comment but I've got lots of knowledge on BWW Race.Hokiesean24 said:I am actually looking at the same 2 wheelsets at the moment. Seem like they are both very tough to beat for $300. I was looking at the standard Blackset Race with the standard spokes and BWW Hubs. Any insight into comparing those to the Neuvation R28XAeros?
That, to me, means they have lighter rims and the potential not to go out of true as much if a spoke breaks.The BWW Black set is a little lighter, and with more spokes.
That only exists below 1mph.I do like the look of the R28XAeros spoke pattern though. I don't want to buy just because I think they look cool though...
Very True, and funny.Mike T. said:That only exists below 1mph.
It can mean a lot to the coffee shop crowd, or group ride start crowd, so it can be a valid reason for choosing some wheels over others. (/sarcasm)Hokiesean24 said:Very True, and funny.
Sapim CX-Ray spokes (if that's what you mean by "Sapims") are very expensive spokes at approx $2.50 - $3.50 per spoke but that price pales in comparison to the price of spokes in those K-word wheels. I've seen prices from $7 to $15 per spoke and wait times (for special orders) to match. In that area alone Blackset Race would be an upgrade. IMO anyway. There is nothing aero about any K-word wheels (nor is there about the Race either) so what do they have going for them after we've got past the catchy name and the fancy decals? Read up on their biodegradable hubs and their fate should be sealed. Then, when we factor in their approx $1000 cost**.......well.SBH1973 said:I'm thinking of offloading my relatively new Ksyrium SLs for a Blackset w/Sapims. Do you think that'd be an "upgrade" or do Blacksets roll about the same as the Kysriums, just for half the price?
I'm sure you'd gain zero actual benefit from swapping wheels at this point. The only positive outcome would be if you could sell the K-word wheels for more than the BWW Race are worth.SBH1973 said:Mike, the thing is that I already have KSLs, with about 1300 miles. They're just what came with the bike. I know they're not worth $1000, but they seem to ride pretty well and feel pretty strong. The question is whether it's worth effectively replacing them with the Blacksets. Will the Blacksets (at c.1360 grams) roll better, accelerate better, flex less – all the things that one would want from a new wheelset. Otherwise, I might as well stick with the KSLs.
Those rim cracks aren't going to improve any that's for sure. Me, I'd re-build the AM/DT240 hubs with new rims and spokes (the rear one anyway) and sell the K's. But that's me.I also have a set of Mike Garcia wheels on Nimble rims w/AM Classic hub up front, DT Swiss 240s out back. My mechanic noticed some very minor stress fractures on the rear wheel, hence my decision not to sell the KSLs new when I got my new bike this spring. But maybe I should just go back to them and get rid of the KSLs now.
Open Sport/DA/DT Comp/32 = 1786g http://www.bicyclewheelwarehouse.com/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=132Mike T. said:A heavy wheel. Heavier than my OpenPro/Dura Ace/DT Comp/32 spoke wheels.
I think you will be happy with the Neuvations. I have ~1200 miles on my R28 Aero4's and they've been great -- dead true, and have stayed that way even with some city commuting, rough roads, and the like. FWIW, I weigh 170lb.Hokiesean24 said:Pulled the trigger on the Neuvations. I'll update when I get them and actually put some miles one them.
