I had a pair of cane creeks on aerohead rims, the hub version before the present. they were, and still are, quite heavy hubs. they were fast wheels, and were pretty durable despite the low spoke count (24f/28r). the front hub was OK. for the rear hub, they used a cheap LX hub body, and the bearings turned a little gritty. I didn't think the wheels were worth MSRP. now, the rear hub is all cartridge bearings.Chris G said:Does anybody have any comments on the cane creek aeros 58? any good ? compare to zipp404 need help looking for aero clinchers at good cost. custom made any better cheaper?