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I thought this might interest a few folks and tick off a few others. I personally like their bikes and I am interested in seeing what the U.S. prices are....


https://www.canyon.com/en-us/

https://www.bikerumor.com/2017/02/0...ry-timeline-for-usa-consumer-direct-delivery/
This isn't really 'new' news... I think it was announced around the start of the year, but i guess you missed it. I think that they'll see some initial success, but I think it'll level off, once people can really check the bikes out in person. Right now, I think there's a lot of interest and people 'lust' for them because they can't get them. I think once they begin to show up here and people see that they're pretty comparable to the other big bike companies, like Specialized, Trek, Giant, etc, a lot of that lure wears off. They do provide more competition though, which is always good for the consumer.

I'm more interested to see what Allied does.
 

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This isn't really 'new' news... I think it was announced around the start of the year, but i guess you missed it. I think that they'll see some initial success, but I think it'll level off, once people can really check the bikes out in person. Right now, I think there's a lot of interest and people 'lust' for them because they can't get them. I think once they begin to show up here and people see that they're pretty comparable to the other big bike companies, like Specialized, Trek, Giant, etc, a lot of that lure wears off. They do provide more competition though, which is always good for the consumer.

I'm more interested to see what Allied does.
Nah, I didn't miss it, we have been discussing it in another thread that nobody really frequents for months now. I just wanted to include more people in the discussion. Clarification on the timeline is an update though. They had to push their initial projections back about 2 months or so ago. I agree on quality, but their pricing is better than Specialized and Trek in my opinion. It's more in line with Giant and Fuji, so if those are more your budget and you like Canyon bikes more than those two, this could be big news for you indefinitely. I am excited to see what the pricing is like and then will go from there. Agree on competition.
 

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Nah, I didn't miss it, we have been discussing it in another thread that nobody really frequents for months now. I just wanted to include more people in the discussion. Clarification on the timeline is an update though. They had to push their initial projections back about 2 months or so ago. I agree on quality, but their pricing is better than Specialized and Trek in my opinion. It's more in line with Giant and Fuji, so if those are more your budget and you like Canyon bikes more than those two, this could be big news for you indefinitely. I am excited to see what the pricing is like and then will go from there. Agree on competition.
Yes, but you're basing the 'value' on the pricing as shown on the european website. They haven't released any US pricing yet and it is quite possible that pricing here could be slightly higher depending on supply chain issues getting the bike to the US, which would knock down some of their value. I've also heard very mixed reviews on quality. Some people say its good, but others have had less than stellar things to say.... I'm talking about people that I actually know that have seen and worked on the bikes, people that I trust. I've also read very mixed reviews on their warranty and repair process, which again knocks the value down when comparing to the bikes that have good warranty and service at shops here in the US.

Don't get me wrong, I'm interested too. I think the Aeroad looks great and the TT bike too, but I want to see and touch, first, before making up my mind.
 

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Yes, but you're basing the 'value' on the pricing as shown on the european website. They haven't released any US pricing yet and it is quite possible that pricing here could be slightly higher depending on supply chain issues getting the bike to the US, which would knock down some of their value. I've also heard very mixed reviews on quality. Some people say its good, but others have had less than stellar things to say.... I'm talking about people that I actually know that have seen and worked on the bikes, people that I trust. I've also read very mixed reviews on their warranty and repair process, which again knocks the value down when comparing to the bikes that have good warranty and service at shops here in the US.

Don't get me wrong, I'm interested too. I think the Aeroad looks great and the TT bike too, but I want to see and touch, first, before making up my mind.
The article indicates that the pricing should be similar, but I hear ya, have heard some of the same things, and even agree with a lot of what you said, but I am still interested to see how it all plays out.
 

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FWIW - I read one interview in which the President of Canyon intimated they were setting up some kind of relationship with US shops to perform service.
 

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FWIW - I read one interview in which the President of Canyon intimated they were setting up some kind of relationship with US shops to perform service.
That could be really cool.
 

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I think this is interesting because it's the first of the European high end direct bike sellers to come into the US market in a big way. The European market is dominated by direct sales companies like Canyon, Propain, YT, Commencal, PlanetX, Boardman, Bulls, Kinesis, Genesis etc. I have no idea how European bike shops survive. These brands all make some really nice, desirable and unique bikes. They all also have nice packaging, include tools and include detailed instructions to make assembly easy. Some of these brands will sell to people in the US but there's no real marketing of their products here. In the US we have BikesDirect (primarily at the low end and with negligible customer service) and that's about it. Americans seem wary about the idea of direct bike sales. The market is crying out for someone to sell the good stuff at a good price. Canyon has had numerous distribution and supply chain issues in the past, we'll see how they do in a market the size of the US.
 

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I thought this might interest a few folks and tick off a few others. I personally like their bikes and I am interested in seeing what the U.S. prices are....


https://www.canyon.com/en-us/

https://www.bikerumor.com/2017/02/0...ry-timeline-for-usa-consumer-direct-delivery/
Once a bunch of people in the US have them, are they going to maintain the same level of hype and hysteria? I am sure they have some good bikes but are they any better than any other bike out there?
 

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Just another Chinese plastic bike. Whoopee! If there's on thing we need more of, its that.

I remember when I was growing up in Missouri and you could only find Coors beer as far east as Kansas. People would actually go on road trips to pick up cases of that mythical beer that you couldn't get in the liquor store. Then Coors went nationwide and everyone realized what miserable swill that stuff is. I think the same goes for Canyon. Best friend's girlfriend kinda thing.
 

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Just another Chinese plastic bike. Whoopee! If there's on thing we need more of, its that.

I remember when I was growing up in Missouri and you could only find Coors beer as far east as Kansas. People would actually go on road trips to pick up cases of that mythical beer that you couldn't get in the liquor store. Then Coors went nationwide and everyone realized what miserable swill that stuff is. I think the same goes for Canyon. Best friend's girlfriend kinda thing.
That's the same analogy I've used in the past about Canyon.

In fairness though Anchor Steam or Sierra Nevada might be more accurate than Coors. Pretty good. But when totally available just another choice. From what I understand Canyon isn't the worse bike ever made like coors is to beer.

That only addressed the part of their demand that comes from people wanting to be different though. We'll have to see what their pricing is like to speculate how they'll do with people looking for a bargain.
 

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If you see a brand of bicycle in a race where Phil & Paul do commentary, it'll create lust for the brand. I've been fascinated by the Canyon brand for several years now. I want to see one in the flesh...er...plastic. I wanna put my leg over it. By the same token, though, I will only entertain buying a Canyon if mine comes straight from Germany and Herr Kanyon personally scribbles his imprimateur on the frame. Harrumph!
 

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Once a bunch of people in the US have them, are they going to maintain the same level of hype and hysteria? I am sure they have some good bikes but are they any better than any other bike out there?
My guess is that will depend on the U.S. pricing and what people that own them report back...
 

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Just another Chinese plastic bike. Whoopee! If there's on thing we need more of, its that.

I remember when I was growing up in Missouri and you could only find Coors beer as far east as Kansas. People would actually go on road trips to pick up cases of that mythical beer that you couldn't get in the liquor store. Then Coors went nationwide and everyone realized what miserable swill that stuff is. I think the same goes for Canyon. Best friend's girlfriend kinda thing.
What's your real point here? At some point, you folks are going to have to get over the fact, that bikes are made of a bunch a different materials these days, and carbon fiber is one of them and currently one of the most popular for multiple reasons. It doesn't mean you have to buy it, but to keep harping on it like this only makes you look foolish (and the rest of us tired of hearing it). If you prefer steel or titanium, great, others don't and aren't required to, it's really that simple. There are enough options out there for everyone to find what they prefer without constantly calling out one material as evil or not worthy of existence. It's childish....
 

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... but I think it'll level off, once people can really check the bikes out in person. Right now, I think there's a lot of interest and people 'lust' for them because they can't get them.
Given some comments on other forums, I think it will level off once people realize they CAN'T get them. While they're "available" in Europe, some of the wait times seem to be crazy.
 

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What's your real point here? At some point, you folks are going to have to get over the fact, that bikes are made of a bunch a different materials these days, and carbon fiber is one of them an currently one of the most popular for multiple reasons. It doesn't mean you have to buy it, but to keep harping on it like this only makes you look foolish (and the rest of us tired of hearing it). If you prefer steel or titanium, great, others don't and aren't required to, it's really that simple. There are enough options out there for everyone to find what they prefer without constantly calling out one material as evil or not worthy of existence. It's childish....
I was riding a monocoque carbon fiber bike back when you were probably still sucking your thumb. I'm in the process of renovating a carbon fiber Colnago. I have nothing against carbon fiber. Where in my post did I say it was evil? I think you're the one who is being childish.
 

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Canyon is pretty much all the rage round here, not only because a certain Herr Kristoff rides one for a living, but also because the pricing is good an the quality even better. The most talked about model on the main Norwegian road cycling forum now is the Endurace, which steers like a proper race bike, and not like a sluggish Synapse or Roubaix. People manage to fit 35 mm studded tyres in the disc brake version, which now also comes in Al. I am seriously contemplating an Endurace Al disc 105 for commuting and crap weather training.
 

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I was riding a monocoque carbon fiber bike back when you were probably still sucking your thumb. I'm in the process of renovating a carbon fiber Colnago. I have nothing against carbon fiber. Where in my post did I say it was evil? I think you're the one who is being childish.
If that truly is the case (that you think carbon fiber bikes that happen to be made in East Asia, like most bikes are these days, are just great and swell), then, again, what on Earth was your point with "plastic" "Chinese" mumbo jumbo? Don't worry, it's a rhetorical question so you don't need to answer. Just know the whole plastic and Chinese bit is old and tired at this point.
 
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