Note that weaves are used for outer layers—more cosmetic than functional. So these numbers don't tell you a whole lot about the inner workings of a carbon frame. Without weaves, carbon would be a tough sell. I've got some 20-year old no-weave carbon sculls for a rowing shell and while they work beautifully, they are butt-ugly. They look like they're made from reject Kingsford BBQ charcoal. You always want to keep your hands on the wooden handles and never touch the carbon. If you do, almost invisible, broken carbon fibers get under your skin and itch infernally.
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