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I've got an older Selle Italia Evolutione CF saddle that I use from time to time.
It's surprisingly comfortable and I can ride it for up to about 1.5hrs with no problems.
My daily use saddle is pretty much the opposite end of the spectrum, a Brooks Swift Ti. Which for me is good for 4+ hours.
I'm about 180#'s so not a lightweight by any means.
 

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I have a Selle Italia SLR C64 on one bike and an M2racer saddle on the other. Carbon saddles are actually very comfortable and I've been riding them for over a year now. Yes I do ride them daily and they are all I ride. The C64 actually has 5 grams of padding sandwiched between the carbon layers although the M2 is very comfortable. The real secret is the shape. If it fits your backside like a glove, and yes I do know that's not the place to wear a glove, then ultimately it will be comfortable. Have you ever ridden a padded saddle that wasn't comfortable but another was? It was the shape not padding that made the difference. If the SLR shape works for you than a C64 will too. I have an extra that I'm selling so if your interested in the details checkout the links below:

http://weightweenies.starbike.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=16923&highlight=m2racer

http://weightweenies.starbike.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=17527

http://weightweenies.starbike.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12116&highlight=c64
 

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I am riding a AX Lightness Endurance......I like it, I Love it & sometimes I hate it :)
It really is a great saddle but on rides over 3 hours I have some pain the next day mainly. But I have no numbness during the ride & it is very nice to move around on too.
I think like Juan said it is all about shape...For all saddles but maybe even more important with all carbon.
I think maybe this is just a hair wide for my sit bones but I am still trying.
If it does not work out I am going to try another all carbon probably the Apollo.
I really think these saddles are nice.Also if you looks at saddles like a SLR the padding is really nothing + the shape being a plastic base tends to be high in the middle in a short time. So those as well as heavier padded saddles like the Arione start off as comfy but after 2.5-3 hours I get numb in that area between here & there :)
In the end saddles are a tough decision because what works for one may be torture for another.
You will have to try. If your lucky & live near a well stocked shop you may be able to do just that. try then buy.
Good Luck
 

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like the others said, its all the shape. I ride a Selle San Marco Aspide composite, and it is comfortable for long distance rides. The key is to support your weight on your sitbones and nowhere else...and maybe 30 years of conditioning the sitbones on hard saddles.
 

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I would've never considered an all carbon saddle but after reading this I might go out and get an slr c64. I'm on an slr right now and love it. The m2 racer also looks nice. I weigh 131 so the weight limit is not a prob and might help with the comfort. Juanmoretime, wich of the two do you prefer on longer rides? Those saddles look pretty pimp.
 

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I raced a Flite Evo for 2 full seasons(mtb). I swear it was effectively as comfy as the reg Flite. The only place your reminded of it being carbon, is when you slide up on the nose when its real steep. The 1mm thick shell flexed alot, as well as having the right angle is critical. Also didn't snag my bibs thru technical like the nose on the SLR does. Last xc race of the season, I missed my clip-in at the start(which made me land on the nose of the saddle relatively hard)and I broke the glued-on anchor deal where the nose of the rails is captured under the shell. It just fell away.. as did the saddle. Long race with just rails..yes indeedy. If it was a roadrace, one could have maybe kept the saddle in place, but with a mtb, no way.


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asawlrider123456789 said:
I would've never considered an all carbon saddle but after reading this I might go out and get an slr c64. I'm on an slr right now and love it. The m2 racer also looks nice. I weigh 131 so the weight limit is not a prob and might help with the comfort. Juanmoretime, wich of the two do you prefer on longer rides? Those saddles look pretty pimp.
The funny thing about tranistioning on saddles is you swore the old one was more comfortable but when you go back to the old saddle the new one just feels better, not in all cases but in this one, right Flying! ;^) The C64 is awesome and I still have one on my training bike, and it's where that one is going to stay. I'm really getting to like the M2. I think initial comfort is the key and getting used to a new saddle for mutliple hours in the saddle takes a few weeks. The ideal situation is if you have two bikes and alternate between the two saddles. A few weeks ago I would have said the C64 but now that I've been on the M2 for a while I would say the M2racer. The C64 is still a great saddle for all day comfort, for many, but I guess ultimately my body has now adapted to the M2.
 

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Juanmoretime said:
The funny thing about tranistioning on saddles is you swore the old one was more comfortable but when you go back to the old saddle the new one just feels better, not in all cases but in this one, right Flying! ;^) .......... I think initial comfort is the key and getting used to a new saddle for mutliple hours in the saddle takes a few weeks.
Very True Juan :thumbsup:

You know the more I ride my AX Endurance the more I am liking it.
At first I did not. I also had some sit bones pain the next day on rides over 3hrs. After some adjustment it got better but still a little sore.
So I was going to sell it & put my SLR back on.......OUCH
I thought I was ok on the SLR but going back to it I had numbness which I always think is worse than some sit bone aches. So yes like Juan said sometimes it might take some time.
I just did 3+ hours on Saturday on the AX & it was no problem with any pain afterwards. Hmmmm :)
 

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if you're worried about price, try stripping an slr


in a crash on my mtb, i cut the leather on my slr....bought a new saddle and moved on. but, as a side project, i tore the leather and padding off, and gave it a whirl.

as stated, the padding didn't make a difference...the shammy certainly does the job there. Upon further deliberation, i decided to go dremel happy.

dremeled away the sides and underbody, cut off the back piece to resemble an aspide, and cut a love channel right down the middle. i absolutley love it, and is now on my road steed.


comes in at 107 grams. i'll see what i can do about pics
 

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I've been riding an AX Endurance for 5 years now. Longest ride has been a shade over 11 hours and it was basically great from day 1. I even have fewer saddle sores since my shorts move more easily on the bare carbon.

The only time I had a numbness problem was after 15km uphill on a decommissioned forest service road where the surface was large ground up chunks of blacktop covered with gravel. Not sure how much difference padding would have made since it was like somebody had attached the saddle to a 2x4 and was beating me with it. Sure some interesting looks on the faces of the 4WD guys that drove by me that day.
 
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