Trying to start a new thread not about China Carbon wheels but maybe I'll end up with them anyway! Looking at the choices of a medium depth carbon clinchers (38-60mm) there is a ton of choices. Is one really that much superior to the other? I have a lot of experience with high end wheels so I do recognize there are differences to some degree. My Rolf's were flexy but harsh, my Reynolds were just harsh but very light, and my current wheelset is fast, comfortable, and stiff enough (Mavic Cosmic Carbone). However, my Mavic's are heavy (1,800 grams) and I want something lighter. Currently looking at the Enve 1.45's at around 1,300 grams for a 45 mm, the Easton EC90SL's at 1,500 grams for a 38 mm, and Zipp 404's at 1,650 grams for a 58 mm. Each in my mind have their Pro's and Con's. The Enve's are light and a good depth, the Easton's reviews are glowing with praise for their comfort and stiffness, the Zipp's are fast but I really don't like the look. Of course there is also price, the Easton's can be had for $1,200 and the other two are closer to $2,600. Are they worth it? I can also do a custom build with Enve's and get Alchemy hubs and white spokes. And maybe I just go with China wheels and save a bunch of money......help me decide!