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in FRance decathlon ( thrye version fo sport mart) sells sports oils and creams that wpork great fout 7 euros a big tube.

i stocked up when i went.

and its all geared for cyclists, not old men with arthirtis.

i got chamois cream, 'toning' cream ( smells liek citrus and tingles a bit) , hot cream and then coolign oil.

all for hella cheap
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