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Have narrowed it down to Dengfu and Workswell for my first Chinese carbon frame.


Prices/geometry are near identical, do folks here have a preference between the two? Which one has a better finish?


I'm also concerned about small chips on the matte finish reaching the carbon - does anyone know what exactly the matte finish is, and if it'd be more protective to have it painted? There have been some pretty underwhelming Workswell paintjob experiences, so leaning towards Dengfu if I decide to get it painted.
 

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Just an update now its been shipped.

Seller is https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/wokecycle

Ordered 24th Oct.

Couple of days later they put a tracking number on eBay that didn't work. They sold me some excuse about moving factory and needing another week before sending.
A week later chased again and they they said they have the frames in stock raw and need 3 days to paint it (matte black) and finally 4 days later it was actually shipped.

Might be worth messaging them first to ask them if you do buy one can they ship within a few days so they don't mess you about when you do order.

At some point the EMS tracking code started working on the parcelforce site.

Day 14 EMS collected from factory
Day 15 Sent to UK
Day 19 Arrived in UK and passed straight to customs
Day 21 Customs charges raised.

So today, day 22 i'm hoping it will arrive at a local parcelforce depot and the customs charges letter will be sent out. If I see that on the tracking page apparently I can ring, find out how much and instead of waiting, pay and get it delivered day 23.


Just ordered an FM-R09 ( FMR09 R09 ) for a very low price on eBay after a little haggling. Tideace do the same one painted up but I wanted stealth look. £266 with postage included.

Size 56
Matte black
Headset
PF30 to BSA included

Will post a pictures once it arrives and a link to the seller if allowed once I have checked it over properly. Hope not to get to badly stung for tax but will see.

Got an Ironman in July so hoping to save a few minuets upgrading from alloy chunky GC frame to Carbon aero. will thrash it about on the flats for a few weeks before going on any aggressive descents so I know its solid.

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Is this normal??

I bought a Costelo Speedcoupe frameset from Ebay from seller "catelorsports":

https://www.ebay.com/i/123334428759?chn=ps&var=423733005367

After receiving the frameset, I found the inside of the steerer tube in this condition. The carbon appears to have delaminated around where the steerer widens from 1 1/8" to 1 1/2".

I sent the image to the seller and they are telling me that this condition is normal, and there is no concern regarding the quality of the steerer tube. I currently ride a 2014 Fuji Gran Fondo 1.1C which also has a carbon steerer, and it does not appear the same. Is anyone here noticing this condition in their carbon steerer tubes?

I don't think it is wise for me to use this fork. I've asked the seller for a replacement, but I am getting the runaround.
 

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I bought a Costelo Speedcoupe frameset from Ebay from seller "catelorsports":

https://www.ebay.com/i/123334428759?chn=ps&var=423733005367

After receiving the frameset, I found the inside of the steerer tube in this condition. The carbon appears to have delaminated around where the steerer widens from 1 1/8" to 1 1/2".

I sent the image to the seller and they are telling me that this condition is normal, and there is no concern regarding the quality of the steerer tube. I currently ride a 2014 Fuji Gran Fondo 1.1C which also has a carbon steerer, and it does not appear the same. Is anyone here noticing this condition in their carbon steerer tubes?

I don't think it is wise for me to use this fork. I've asked the seller for a replacement, but I am getting the runaround.
I could be wrong, from what i have found googling there is a process of expanding a pressurised plastic sleeve to push the carbon out against the mould but I don't know if they use moulds for steerer tubes.

It could be a case of the sleeve failing and not pushing it up agains the mould in the first place rather that it delaminating since it should not have been under any stress as yet.

If no-one else come back to you, you don't feel safe and if you have given the seller a genuine chance to resolve and he wont budge then your last option is to open a "not as described" case on ebay. This could work out very expensive for the seller in terms of loss of sale and return postage and he is likely to change his stance...
 

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I could be wrong, from what i have found googling there is a process of expanding a pressurised plastic sleeve to push the carbon out against the mould but I don't know if they use moulds for steerer tubes.

It could be a case of the sleeve failing and not pushing it up agains the mould in the first place rather that it delaminating since it should not have been under any stress as yet.

If no-one else come back to you, you don't feel safe and if you have given the seller a genuine chance to resolve and he wont budge then your last option is to open a "not as described" case on ebay. This could work out very expensive for the seller in terms of loss of sale and return postage and he is likely to change his stance...
Thanks Alexss for the insight! Your explanation definitely makes sense. It appears that several layers have separated and are flaking in toward the center of the steerer.

The seller is still communicating, so hopefully they are able to resolve this without having to open a case on EBay. I’ll keep the thread updated.
 

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Alex,

I think you might have been hoodwinked by a drop-shipper who doesn't carry any inventory and just orders from the factory and then ships to you. In fact, the ebay profile you mentioned doesn't seem to sell anything anymore.

I'd advise anyone who wants to buy from the Tideace brand to get it from Haidelibikes account. I've been to their factory in Pingshan, China a couple of times and they are a hardworking, trustworthy bunch who really focus on elevating their product quality.

From what I know, most of the frames they have are stored in an unfinished state. Upon ordering, they will apply their finishing techniques (smoothing, paint, clearcoat) before shipping the bike out. This takes about a week (the coats take time to cure). Still, it helps to ask if they have ready stock they can ship out immediately. I'll also feedback to them that this is an area they can improve in.

Cheers
QX

Just an update now its been shipped.

Seller is https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/wokecycle

Ordered 24th Oct.

Couple of days later they put a tracking number on eBay that didn't work. They sold me some excuse about moving factory and needing another week before sending.
A week later chased again and they they said they have the frames in stock raw and need 3 days to paint it (matte black) and finally 4 days later it was actually shipped.

Might be worth messaging them first to ask them if you do buy one can they ship within a few days so they don't mess you about when you do order.

At some point the EMS tracking code started working on the parcelforce site.

Day 14 EMS collected from factory
Day 15 Sent to UK
Day 19 Arrived in UK and passed straight to customs
Day 21 Customs charges raised.

So today, day 22 i'm hoping it will arrive at a local parcelforce depot and the customs charges letter will be sent out. If I see that on the tracking page apparently I can ring, find out how much and instead of waiting, pay and get it delivered day 23.
 

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Alex,

I think you might have been hoodwinked by a drop-shipper who doesn't carry any inventory and just orders from the factory and then ships to you. In fact, the ebay profile you mentioned doesn't seem to sell anything anymore.

I'd advise anyone who wants to buy from the Tideace brand to get it from Haidelibikes account. I've been to their factory in Pingshan, China a couple of times and they are a hardworking, trustworthy bunch who really focus on elevating their product quality.

From what I know, most of the frames they have are stored in an unfinished state. Upon ordering, they will apply their finishing techniques (smoothing, paint, clearcoat) before shipping the bike out. This takes about a week (the coats take time to cure). Still, it helps to ask if they have ready stock they can ship out immediately. I'll also feedback to them that this is an area they can improve in.

Cheers
QX
Well they had a good history of feedback and no-one else would match a price that low. Perhaps I got them into trouble posting the sellers id here who knows, not fussed as long as it landed eventually.

Day 23 Revised Customs charges raised
Day 23 Released from customs
Day 24 Received at delivery depot
Day 24 Awaiting payment of customs charges
Left it till Monday morning to pay
Day 25 Delivery scheduled
Day 26 Delivered

They posted from ShenZhen City Guangdong Province, marked as gift $87
£12 for Parcelforce charge and £30ish Vat.

Quality is great, few very slight blemishes will post pictures as suchlike soon the only thing they didn't do was included the PF30 to BSA adapter. I asked if it was included when ordering and they said it was. They have replied and will send one apparently but I have ordered a rotor PF30 to BSA adapter anyway, known to be a very tight fit and thread together a bit like prixis so should run creak free if I put it in right first time.
 

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Hi to all,
I'm happy to introduce you my new chinese bike, it's a Fasterway Classic frame, with Ican FL40 wheelset, yesterday I rode the bike for the first time, I'm so happy, the frame is more reactive and more comfortable than my Fondriest R20, the direct mount are an advantage not trascurable .



Frame:
Fasterway Classic (seatpost included)
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/2018..._expid=1b6cdb5e-6545-4201-ba0d-f5a080291382-1

Wheelset:
Ican FL40 No Logo
https://it.icancycling.com/collecti...m-wide-straight-pull-sapim-cx-ray-spoke-1400g

Groupset:
Ultegra R8000 (direct mount brakes)

Handlebar:
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/free...133.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.39ff4c4dJVIi8g

Stem:
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/Bicy...162.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.39ff4c4dJVIi8g

Bottlecages:
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/FCFB...640.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.39ff4c4dJVIi8g

Saddle:
Selle Italia Superflow lL3

Pedals:
Time X-Pro10

speed cadence sensor:
Sigma R2Duo

Smartphone Mount:
DIY


Weight 7,0kg (without bottles and smartphone)












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Some of those Ali Express links no longer work.
 

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Today 2nd ride with the new bike, I can confirm all I've writed and I can add that this frame have a good descending quality.







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Fm-r09 fmr09 r09 finished build.

So I finished the build, was a shame I had to use the old chainset its got millage marks but tough nuts the mrs already has a gun to my head.

The only genuine issue I have is that the seat post is undersized but from reading around this can be a common thing for carbon posts and especially aero shaped posts, even with an excessively tightened wedge.

On the first ride out I had to stop twice and lift it back out. I settled on fixing it buy adding a double height and double layer of black PVC insulation tape around the clamp area for the wedge to bite into and also a single height single layer around the bottom which only just slid in to prevent back and forward movement inside the frame pivoting from the clamp point so it cant wiggle its-self down.

I ran the cables through the plastic liner as I didn't want rub on the inside of the frame but the plastic cable guide attached to the bottom bracket was positioned in a way that caused a sharp kink so in the end I had to remove the guide and trim it for the rear mech to function nice and smooth.

Only been out on her twice in less than favourable conditions but I can tell you she is very fast. I upgraded from a relatively standard alloy frame with carbon fork which was not much heavier. The aero lines defiantly work wonders over 20mph.

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Hi,

I am looking for a new aero style disc frame, but I was wondering f anyone was aware of a frame with hidden cables (i.e. like the newer bikes where the cables go under the handlebars and down the headtube only to reappearing close to the brakes and derailleurs.

Thanks
 

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Did you weigh the frame/fork/seatpost? The aliexpress description doesn't give the fork and seatpost weight

Hi to all,
I'm happy to introduce you my new chinese bike, it's a Fasterway Classic frame, with Ican FL40 wheelset, yesterday I rode the bike for the first time, I'm so happy, the frame is more reactive and more comfortable than my Fondriest R20, the direct mount are an advantage not trascurable .



Frame:
Fasterway Classic (seatpost included)
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/2018..._expid=1b6cdb5e-6545-4201-ba0d-f5a080291382-1

Wheelset:
Ican FL40 No Logo
https://it.icancycling.com/collecti...m-wide-straight-pull-sapim-cx-ray-spoke-1400g

Groupset:
Ultegra R8000 (direct mount brakes)

Handlebar:
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/free...133.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.39ff4c4dJVIi8g

Stem:
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/Bicy...162.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.39ff4c4dJVIi8g

Bottlecages:
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/FCFB...640.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.39ff4c4dJVIi8g

Saddle:
Selle Italia Superflow lL3

Pedals:
Time X-Pro10

speed cadence sensor:
Sigma R2Duo

Smartphone Mount:
DIY


Weight 7,0kg (without bottles and smartphone)












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Hi Everyone. New Poster here.

I'm trying to build my first Carbon Disc Frame Road Bike... Don't know if I need AERO or Regular.. I am leaning towards DENGFU. They have only a few disc frames:

R06 Disc
FM099
R06 Disc
R12 Disc

The R12 looks too futuristic and not sure I like the 1-1/2" straight steerer tube... and the integrated handlebar... not sure what i'd have to do to get a proper fit... so I like to stay flexible to swap parts, different stems and handlebars if need be.

On the R06, I'm not sure I like the clamp that holds the seat post. Anyone has had issues with that? And I have a feeling the front axle needs a 15mm x 100mm axle...

I'm not a racer but looks matter to me. Probably I'll go with a matt Black w/Clear coat or maybe Glossy BK with no names.

I'm 60 Male, 168 cm and 88 Kg. With an inseam of 81 cm... My flexibility is 2 out of 5.

My current bike is an allroad BIANCI that's alumimum with 105 Disc groupset. I have repaced the knobby 35mm tires with 28mm Conti's... Now it looks a bit weird with all that space around the top of the fork... and it's heavy -- around 23 Lbs.. (I've got a 11-42T Cassette in the back: Deore XT M8000 using a Wolftooth Road Link to fit it).

Anyway, I'm partial to the FM099 or the R02 Disc; but apart for the many reviews I've seen of the non-disc FM098 and R02 version, there is absolutely nothing on the disc versions anywhere to get some comfort.... ANY opinions/help???? Would to see some finished bikes with these frames... anyone knows what brands they are imitating?

I want to build this new bike with a Shimano R8020 Groupset. I've already ordered a Yoeleo C50 (27mm wide version to use it with a 28mm tires) DB Pro wheel set with Sapim CX and DT Swiss 350 Hubs and 28H custom holes. Also 12x142mm back, and 12x100 Front thru axles. I am hoping to use them on my Bianchi and eventually on the new road bike... So I hope the tires will fit the new frame...

Looking forward to hearing from anyone. Thanks. Any other options welcome.
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