Understood, but that wasn't part of the story that I was told...It's more than "feel." Chorus and above are "Ultrashift" where one can shift multiple cogs up or down with one push of the lever or thumb button. Athena and down spec are "Powershift" where each push only moves the lever one cog. If you never had Ultrashift or came from Shimano/Sram (or nothing), Powershift would seem fine. Ultrashift spoils you.
In 2010 for instance, when Athena was Ultrashift, the internals were identical to Chorus and Record, so any differences are more likely due to installation. I have not seen to much hard information on wear related to the "new" shifter internals introduced in 2009.I'm using Ultrashift Athena levers on one bike and Chorus levers on my newer bike because Athena had gone powershift. Both bikes use Athena derailleurs.
The only descernable difference i notice is a more distinct sensation of the ratchet on the shift up to the big ring on the left hand. However I have an impression of the Athena shifter "wearing in" and can't answer whether the sensation in the newer Chorus shifter will change.
Very impressed with both.
Have a great ride,
Yes, you are wrong. Guess you didn't read the thread.I thought I read somewhere that the internals of Athena levers were identical to Chorus and up except for the bushings which are nylon in the Athena and metal in Chorus up.
I could be wrong though.
Yeah sorry, I wasn't clear, I wasn't talking about current powershift Athena which I don't consider worth talking about.Yes, you are wrong. Guess you didn't read the thread.
Powershift and Ultrashift internals are quite different. Current Athena is PS. Chorus and Record are US.
To the bolded, completely wrong. The internals were the same on Athena, Chorus & Record. Replacement part no is EC-RE100 & EC-RE101 on all three.Yeah sorry, I wasn't clear, I wasn't talking about current powershift Athena which I don't consider worth talking about.
If you read my post you'd note that I have Chorus shifters because Athena are now powershift and I wanted ultrashift.
When Athena was ultrashift the internals were different to Chorus up as the Athena levers used bushings and the Chorus up used bearings.
Of course now as you've pointed out they are different as Athena is powershift and Chorus up are still ultrashift.
Have a great ride,
It's all on the Campagnolo website.What are the differences between 2010 Athena and 2013 Chorus? There are still some 2010 Athena shifters and cranks available online. I was thinking about snatching some up for my next frame.
Paddy, the early problems with U/S were with the 2009 production, they were fixed with a running internal change in late 2009. 2010 levers should be fine. The only thing to worry about is that you cannot tell the difference by looking at them, and I have yet to have anyone explain Campy serial ##'s on the box. So, you have to trust the seller.
I have a set of Athena UT carbon cranks. I doubt there is any significant difference to current Chorus, but you could always check the spares catalogs yourself. Note that parts may be identical, but if the logos are different they will have a different P/N (ie cranks).