[Lookbiker]

Me: 195 lbs, former racer and enjoy fast club rides and training rides (45-60 miles with some centuries) now.

White Industries T11 hubs
24 DT Comp spokes front (maybe radial laced)
32 DT Comp spokes rear (3x)
IRD (Kinlin) 300 rims

Thanks

 

[Mike T.]

Me: 195 lbs, former racer and enjoy fast club rides and training rides (45-60 miles with some centuries) now.

White Industries T11 hubs
24 DT Comp spokes front (maybe radial laced)
32 DT Comp spokes rear (3x)
IRD (Kinlin) 300 rims

I like it! Thanks for not being in the "can I get away with 16/20 spokes?" camp. That's a very sensible set of wheels.

 

[rruff]

Use Revs on the front and NDS rear... or consider Aerolites or CX-Rays there. More expensive, but those aren't cheap hubs either.

I think you'd like the XC279 rim better.

 

[Roland44]

Use Revs on the front and NDS rear... or consider Aerolites or CX-Rays there. More expensive, but those aren't cheap hubs either.

I think you'd like the XC279 rim better.

Yeah, I gotta vouch for XC279 rim as well, good stuff..

 

[Zen Cyclery]

Third vote.

The XC279 is a more versatile rim than the 300. It handles a bit better in the wind too.

 

[Lookbiker]

Thanks for the good suggestions. Why the different spokes (not an expert myself so thanks-I just only really know DT comps).

 

[mikerp]

Me: 195 lbs, former racer and enjoy fast club rides and training rides (45-60 miles with some centuries) now.

White Industries T11 hubs
24 DT Comp spokes front (maybe radial laced)
32 DT Comp spokes rear (3x)
IRD (Kinlin) 300 rims

Thanks

Kudos for a reasonable build, depending you your power output you should be able to go with a 28h (especially if you go to the XC279). The other spokes mention (aero) offer a bit of bling (a 20/24h front wheel could actually see some improvement).

 

[rruff]

Thanks for the good suggestions. Why the different spokes (not an expert myself so thanks-I just only really know DT comps).

The T11 has a very high inherent tension ratio (~16mm DS offset and 38.5mm NDS), and lighter (less stiff) NDS spokes help to mitigate the effects of that. The front wheel does not require high tension IME, and the lighter spokes should be plenty stiff for you... so basically no good reason not to use lighter spokes there, but Comps would be fine if you prefer them. I'd spring for the aero spokes though since you are springing for nice hubs... if you get a tool from Alchemy to hold the blade, they are very easy to build.

The rim also has very good aero properties, so you would end up with a durable wheelset that doesn't give up any speed. Sure it isn't a lot... but still.

BTW, if you go with aero spokes, you can get DT Aero Comps (an ovalized version of the Comp that doesn't require hub slotting) for the DS, and use CX-Rays or Aerolites elsewhere.

 

[Clipped_in]

Kudos for a reasonable build, depending you your power output you should be able to go with a 28h (especially if you go to the XC279).

+1 I'm the same weight as the OP, 6'-3" and I have pretty good power. I spent 2 years on some A23's @ 28 spokes with DT comps 3X-DS/NDS and they were fine for me. Very Solid and the XC279 is stiffer than the A23 rim.

 

[Lookbiker]

Thanks for the suggestions here. Would a 23mm clincher tire om the Kinlin 279 rim be about the same overall width as a 23mm tubular tire? I have chainstay clearnance issues.

 

[biker jk]

Thanks for the suggestions here. Would a 23mm clincher tire om the Kinlin 279 rim be about the same overall width as a 23mm tubular tire? I have chainstay clearnance issues.

I have the Kinlin 279 rim and my Vittoria Rubino Pro 3 tyre measures 25mm across on that rim.

 

[rruff]

Tubular tires do not change in width if the rim width changes... but clinchers do. IME a 3-4mm increase in interior width results in a ~2-3mm increase in tire width.

 

[Lookbiker]

Final decision here. CK R45 hubs 28/32 spokes with DT Swiss 440 rims. Question: Is it worth going with the CX-Rays for the front if I'm going with 2x rather than radial lacing? Sticking with DT Comps for the rear but I know some use the lighter CX-Rays front and rear. Thanks for all the help.
(Things were easier when it was just 36 spokes and GP4 rims!)

 

[rruff]

I'd use CX-Rays front and NDS.

 

[Lookbiker]

I'd use CX-Rays front and NDS.

Would you go with 28 spokes 2x with the CX-Ray or radial

Thanks for your help

 

[rruff]

Either way... up to you.