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What's going on with Creed? Can't even finish Tour of Normandy? Lot's of big-time teams there too [sarcasm].

If he was just building for the summer, they should have left him home. I thought TIAA-CREF really wanted to show well in their euro races (and Huff has)?
 

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Sick...everybody who can't finish a race is sick. Hey, that's what I would say too. My point is we'll never really know.

Creed is an animator and he is fun to watch. However, he is a confident man and he's had a bad year or so. The clock is ticking. He has to show some good results soon.

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francois said:
Sick...everybody who can't finish a race is sick. Hey, that's what I would say too. My point is we'll never really know.

Creed is an animator and he is fun to watch. However, he is a confident man and he's had a bad year or so. The clock is ticking. He has to show some good results soon.

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Agree with you on this one. Everytime someone doesn't finish a race, they had a stomach bug, or a touch of a cold, or a flu, or something. Why can't they just say their fitness sucked, and leave it at that? I think Landis has harped on this one several times in interviews that I've read from him.

Creed has about this year to do something good, and then he'll be plying the US crit circuit for the rest of his life. He always was a better big fish in a small pond, well, so far. I'm not saying he can't do it, it is just that when he's gotten the chance to race big time, he's not done too well. He was actually sick most of last year, so I can cut him some slack there, but the first year he rode with Postal, he didn't do anything either. So this year it's time to put up or shut up I think, and with Pate being around him, look for another lackluster year.
 

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Creed's first year with Postal he won the Cascade Classic without so much as even a team car. So the dude's got it in him.
Cascade Classic or Spring Classics? I wonder which race is harder? I'm going to go with any Spring Classic race, not because of the course, as the Cascade is a hard race, but because of the competition that is there. So let's look at the race itself shall we?

Stage 1, Creed finished a stellar 72nd on the day just barely making it onto the back of the front group:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road.php?id=road/2004/jul04/cascade04/cascade041

Stage 2 is of course where he threw it down, and threw it down he did. He smoked everyone on that day, helluva a ride it appears:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road.php?id=road/2004/jul04/cascade04/cascade042

Stage 3 he came in a respectable 5th in the TT. Although he beat Louder who was trailing him in the overall in 2nd position.Moving up his overall advantage to 38 seconds.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road.php?id=road/2004/jul04/cascade04/cascade043

Stage 4, a crit. I have never known why they put crits into stage races, it provides little or no chance for anyone to make up any time unless they're handing out time bonuses for the guys who podium, but in a stage race that has already been over some brutal climbs, why didn't they run another road stage? I know that there are plenty of roads in and around Bend that are bombastic and would make the race 10 times harder than it already is.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road.php?id=road/2004/jul04/cascade04/cascade044

Stage 5, circuit race. Again, like a crit with longer laps. Stay somewhere near the front, and keep out of trouble, and you'll not lose your lead if you've got the fitness. Little or no chance to get time on your opponents.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road.php?id=road/2004/jul04/cascade04/cascade045

Stage 6, another crit, and as long as the kid doesn't crash out, he's going to win. He finishes safely in the front group, and rides on to victory. So really, he had one hard day out of all of them, and rode really hard and balls out when it counted. He didn't need a team for that, he had the engine to ride away from the rest of the guys out there.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road.php?id=road/2004/jul04/cascade04/cascade046

Looking at the results, sure you've got a who's who of domestic pro racers in there, but these guys are all Division 3 at the time, and you've got Creed who is riding for a division 1 team winning this race. Some may say, including myself, that this is how it should have been.

Creed has it in him, but I don't think he cares really. Or at least that is how it appears to be. I think coming up as a junior racer, he was essentially coddled, told how good he was, and he was good, as a junior, and won many national championships, and U23 stuff as well. And let's face it, we've all seen junior racing in the US. The fields are getting deeper, but they're still small change out there. Most people don't take up the sport until they're well into college for the most part. Well, then, Creed got to the big time, and kind of stuffed it. Sure he was sick last year, but if you have down on your resume the biggest win of your career as the Cascade Classic, sorry Charlie, you might as well hang it up at the top tier. Not that I personally wouldn't love winning that race, but when you're racing for Lance's team, at least in this case, it's kind of minor on their radar screens compared to the winning Armstrong, Max, and others did in '04. Now he's riding for j. Vaughters at TIAA-CREF, and I hope he does well, and maybe gets another ride with a ProTour team, but I'm not going to hold my breath. Sure, he'll rip it around the US, but as we've seen, Europe ain't the US and things are most certainly different over there.
 

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Mootsie said:
Creed's first year with Postal he won the Cascade Classic without so much as even a team car. So the dude's got it in him.
He raced a smaller crit for Discovery here in Austin. This was increadiable. He smashed the rest of the pelton. Went from back to front in one straight hold it then drop back. he did that the whole time. His time there was just for show and not to win. If he wanted to he could have walked all over the field and rode back the hotel room.
 
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