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So after much thought, I've decided to go custom. I'm 150lbs, and basically just do recreational rides in mostly rolling terrain. I originally wanted CK R45 hubs, but couldn't justify the cost for the riding that I do, but I wanted red hubs to bring a little "bling" to the bike. So here it is:

BHS Hubs (SLF71W) + SL211 (what is the general consensus on these hubs)
Panceti SL 23 Rims
CX Rays 20/24
Alloy nips

My calculations get this set to about 1400g for under $400. Do you guys have any suggestions or alternatives for the type of riding that I do? I don't generate a lot of power, and average about 27kph on most rides. I do like climbing so I'd like to keep the weight down.

I've also considered the HED Ardennes SL from CC for $660 and the Boyd Vitesse wheels as an option that's very similar to the build I might want. If boyd didnt have their logos on the rim, and the skewers they would have been the easy choice. Your opinions are appreciated.
 

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I agree with Ergott regarding a stronger drive side spoke, but would also add that if cost is a concern run Sapim Laser spokes instead of the CX-rays. At 1/3rd of the cost they are a much better value. CX-Rays are "hot" right now, but for a recreational rider who prefers climbing they benefit you, roughly, zero.
 

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Thanks for the info so far. The cost is already well below my original budget of $800. I do prefer the looks of bladed spokes so that's why I chose the cx rays. What would be an example of a stronger spoke to use on the right side? Or would going with 28 in the rear do the same thing?
 

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You can also build it triplet style with the SL211 hub. That allows for 16 spokes on the DS and 8 on the NDS to keep tensions on both sides more similar. Keep in mind, if you lose a NDS spoke, it will be impossible get the wheel true enough to hobble home unless you have a emergency fiber spoke.
Tips on a 16:8 triplet lacing. NDS always heads in. DS calculate using 3.167 cross.
 

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Thanks for the input. Do the BHS hubs have logos on them? Also is there any real world difference between the Panceti SL23 and Kinlin 279's? The kinlins are quite a bit cheaper with a small weight penalty, but seem to be getting good reviews also.
 

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Thanks for the input. Do the BHS hubs have logos on them? Also is there any real world difference between the Panceti SL23 and Kinlin 279's? The kinlins are quite a bit cheaper with a small weight penalty, but seem to be getting good reviews also.
No logos.



I don't have any experience with Kinlin rims, but I can say that the Pacenti rims are very nice.
 

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What would be an example of a stronger spoke to use on the right side?
What you'd want is a *stiffer* spoke... ie heavier. Like a Sapim race, WS DB14, etc.

I've been encouraging Alchemy to import and distribute Sapim CX-Sprints, which are aero spokes that are apparently a little lighter than the Race, but will fit in hubs without slotting. I think there would be good demand now that S11 is making the DS offsets so low.

But if you do a good job of building the wheels you should be able to use CX-Rays on the DS without problems. Make the DS tension at least 120kg. Lace the DS 2x and the NDS radial head-out.
 

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Also is there any real world difference between the Panceti SL23 and Kinlin 279's?
I haven't worked with the Pacentis yet, but I have worked with a ton of the Kinlins. The XC279 is definitely the best hoop from Kinlin, but it doesn't have the finish of the Archetype from H Plus Son, or the C2 from Hed.
 

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You can use CX-Rays on the drive side at your weight. I weigh exactly the same and built a set with the Kinlin XC-279 rim, BHS hubs and 20f, 24r CX-Rays. Drive side tension is 130kgf and non-drive ended up at 60kgf and I have had no issues with spokes unwinding. The Pacenti SL23 rim is 30g lighter so might be preferred from a climbing perspective. I would use the BHS SL218 hub which provides better bearings and higher non-drive to drive side tension at the cost of just 7g.
 

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You guys have been awesome. Thanks for all the input. Now the questions is red, black, or grey? I'm thinking red to stand out a bit but maybe too flashy? I know this pic is all sorts of wrong but it's all I got for now with the old Fulcrum 7's.
 

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You guys have been awesome. Thanks for all the input. Now the questions is red, black, or grey? I'm thinking red to stand out a bit but maybe too flashy? I know this pic is all sorts of wrong but it's all I got for now with the old Fulcrum 7's.
Black or red. Since your build is so simple from a color perspective you can get away with whatever hub color you like an still look pretty classy.
 
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