To be fair to Walsh on that point, the only Tour winners not implicated in a doping scandal have been LeMond and Van Impe.MB1 said:Yes but David Walsh thinks everyone is a cheat and makes his living by calling tour winners cheats and then selling books with the "expose details."
But using Walsh's logic, doesn't the fact that LeMond holds the record for the fastest tour time trial, faster than all those riders Walsh believes are or were doping, prove that LeMond must have been doping too?Hairnet said:To be fair to Walsh on that point, the only Tour winners not implicated in a doping scandal have been LeMond and Van Impe.
My point exactly. It's impossible to argue that rider A is doping based on comparison to rider B's performance though Walsh continues to do so (selectively). From http://www.macleans.ca/canada/features/article.jsp?content=20070727_150415_8508stevesbike said:I guess most people didn't actually watch Lemond's 1989 time trial because when they mention it as indication that he was cheating they dont seem to realize 1) it was only 24.5 kilometers long, 2) there was an elevation decline between start to finish.
FondriestFan said:It's a lot easier to just close your eyes and be a fanboy than spend the time to read the evidence.
Despite all of this, maybe the good Armstrong has done as a result of his victories has been worth it.
Sure's he's become rich, but he's also provided inspiration to millions. That's worth something.
There is NO way LA took HGH in his post cancer years. As far as the rest, I wouldn't be suprised at all.barbedwire said:It is far easier to know the "image" of Armstrong as a cancer survivor and endless supporter against the fight for cancer cures than it is to know the dark side of Armstrong. One of a intimidating, litigous bully who, I believe, did take drugs (EPO, Actovegin, corticosteroids, HGH, you name it) in his tour wins.