Nothing against Elliot Bay bicycles but my two Davidisons are up in the junk room now. I was into all that for twenty years and then I rode a cheap Fuji carbon fiber bike and it was all over. I wish I could take back the last twenty years and have had the bike I own now. All of the new carbon bikes are what the others were promising us for all those years. Try one. You don't need to spend six grand any more.