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I have older Richey SPD-type pedals on my road bike. I understand they are obsolete.

I have just discovered a pair of SWEET Diadora Proracer Chrome shoes on sale in girlie sizes for $189. They say " cleat compatibility: 3-bolt LOOK-style". That doesn't sound good for me, does it? My Vittoria Raiders w/ Il Pirata on the side are getting a little long in the tooth.

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That's right. You might be better served to get some new pedals. Try the Shimano SL series. Much better than the old Ritcheys.
 

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Those nice new shoes *deserve* new pedals don't you think? :)
 

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New Stuff

Great, if you get new shoes and pedals, Caroline will want something new. She is already going to get a new house, I don't need her wanting new shoes too.
 

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LOVE your screenname!
that was the first mtn i climbed on the bike, this spring break.
what's your best time? The bike shop guys gave @ Liberty gave me a time that makes me look like a TDF rider, so I'm curious as to a real time.

--EDIT--sorry for hijacking beyond this line! --/EDIT--

I've got a similar question to the OP.
I'm not sure if Ritchey-style SPD is the same as SPD, I'm getting some new shoes, 3-Bolt Look like her, have some Shimano M959 SPD's, either that or M520's, cant remember.
Do SPD's fit on the 3-Bolt? Since it's 2-bolt and the 3-bolt is an isosceles triangle, it looks like it'd fit on the lower two points, but well, I'd not like to find out that i spent 250-some bucks out of my poor high-school-no-job wallet, on a pair of shoes i cant buy till i get new pedals, cuz that would pretty much mean that i'd be able to ride the new shoes 3 months after i got em... if it requires new pedals i can talk the rents into lending me money ;)
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but...but...I LIKE my pedals. I'm loyal to stuff that works for me. I have been married for 16 years, remember. All I want is new shoes!

Come, come. Those shoes are 5 years old and have already been glued. You saw them. I've had a new bike since I've had new shoes. Actually, these are the first road shoes I ever got.

Seriously, is there no adaptor or anything? I want new wheels too, and a new BMW. You have to draw the line somewhere!
 

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adapters

There are adapters made for some shoes. When I was riding Sidi's and using SPD pedals, I bought an adapter to convert them from three bolt to SPD. I still have those and they might fit on your Diadoras.

You should have joined the team with Caroline and then you could have bought Mavics at a great deal. I have some Bontrager X-Lites I could sell you.

Just buy a new BMW, it's only money.
 

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thanks. I guess I'll see if Diadora has any info on their site. As to wheels, Danna wants Campy.

Estone: was that on the Blue Ridge Parkway? What starting/ending points did they give you for timing yourself?
 

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Furthermore: (i love responding to myself)

I found this on cycling news: It's about the Proracer Carbon, not Chrome, not sure if I can assume they are the same cleat-wise. Anyhow, what the hell does this mean?

"Let's start at the sole, which is made from carbon-reinforced nylon, but with what Diadora calls the "Multiped" system, but what we all call "cleat inserts" that are screwed into the sole of the shoe.

Given that nearly all shoe manufacturers have adopted the 3-hole pattern introduced by Look (even Carnac has abandoned inserts in 2005 range and opted for a complete sole), Diadora remains one company that can still offer a wide range of pedal compatibilities.

This could be good news to those owners of Shimano's popular SPD and the improved SPD-R pedals. For early-adopters of the SPD and SPD-R, it's more than likely the pedal is still quite functional but the shoes are on the way out, if not replaced already. Indeed, the SPD-R is still favoured by many track cyclists for its secure retention strength. However, the design has been discontinued by Shimano, disappointing many current owners as the petite pedals have proved extremely robust.(In fairness to Shimano, the company claims that SPD-R pedals practically stopped selling when the SPD-L became available, even though they were both available for a while.)

Adding the cleat insert facility, however, also increases the stack height, that is, the distance between the ball of your foot and the pedal axle. The widely held belief is that "closer is better", and I found that I had to increase the saddle height 3-4mm when changing over from thin, single-piece carbon fibre soled-shoes to the new Diadoras.

The profile of the sole is not as flat as other Italian brands, but not as stepped as the high-end French-made shoes; somewhere in-between, is how I'd put it. The shoes were tested with 3-hole, Look-compatible inserts, each attached by two Allen screws. The cleats are then screwed into these inserts using whatever fasteners your pedal-maker supplied. In this case, they were tested using Campagnolo pedals/cleats and the aft adjustment provided by the positioning of the female threads in the cleat insert will be more suited to those riders who've not had to jam their cleats all the way back to position their feet in the ideal ergonomic position."
 

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Oh La La!

Well if you want Campy, then you need to go all out and get some carbon Campy wheels. I really want some Zipp's or American Classic carbon wheels but just can't justify it to myself because I wouldn't want to ride them everyday. The new Kyserium ES's will just have to do since I won't mind using them as racing and training wheels.
 

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Suggestion: You might like Shimano SPD-SL style pedals....

Maybe I was a complete doughhead but I went from SPD-R (after they wore
out after about 3100 miles - I just destroyed them completely - the threaded
inserts in the shoes literally were stripped - gack) to SPD-SL.

I went to the SPD-SL type Shimano pedals and found, to my utter
amazement, after using them for a few months that they also worked
perfectly with the spin bikes at the health club which had SPD
style pedals on one side and LOOK style on another. In other words,
the shoes/cleats work great with the LOOK side of the pedal!

The SPD-SL shoes/cleats mate perfectly with the Look style pedals.

Tell me: "Was this intentional?" Did Lance have some kind of addiction
to his old Look style pedals and the SPD-SL Shimano pedals were some
kind of "compatible" system? I don't know, all I know is, it's really great to
be able to use my actual road shoes while spinning at the club.

Also the fact that the cleats aren't made out of horrifically damaging wooden-floor-gouging-sharp-metal bits like the SPD-R's were and don't
get bitten, chewed and destroyed with every ride.

Also, the SPD-SL pedals work great on the bike and the ones I have (Ultegra)
are nice and light and feel pretty stable.

Another upside: if a buddy has a bike with Look style pedals I can ride it
if I need to. Moohahaha!
 
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