Meh. It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor, black or white, corporate exec or trash collector, gay or straight, man or woman, mansion owner or trailer renter - you're either an a$$hat or you're not.monocognizant said:That's just typical. "I make a huge salary and take home a ridiculous bonus therefore I am better than anyone else here!" Corporate exec trash! :mad2:
I guess we'll find out soon enough if his zero gravity brakes pinch bolts hold up...:cryin:ZoSoSwiM said:Hmm... never threaten the builder of your custom bike.. It might let go on a 40mph descent..
I'm not surprised though....
Hey, actions have consequences. If Joe wants to be a d!ck he will have to suffer whatever consequences come with it. Could be a beatdown, trashing of his car, lawsuit, or being publicly humiliated. Not sure it is the approach I would have used but not one that I would rule out either.danl1 said:...Calling a customer out by name online is bad form, no matter the offense.
...even though he does deserve it.
He made a death threat--I would assume that's actionable.Scot_Gore said:Davis says Burton finally relented after he told him that Cyclepath customers were willing to testify about his behavior to the police
I realize that the guy behaved badly, but what exactly would the willing customers be telling the police or a court?
danl1 said:Meh. It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor, black or white, corporate exec or trash collector, gay or straight, man or woman, mansion owner or trailer renter - you're either and a$$hat or you're not. .................
I Agree - that wasn't my point, though.Keeping up with Junior said:Hey, actions have consequences. If Joe wants to be a d!ck he will have to suffer whatever consequences come with it. Could be a beatdown, trashing of his car, lawsuit, or being publicly humiliated. Not sure it is the approach I would have used but not one that I would rule out either.
That version sounds as likely as Tyler's chimeral twin doping explanation.danl1 said:I Agree - that wasn't my point, though.
I'm just saying that there's likely another side to this story. There usually is, and the highly professional, perfectly behaved LBS staff that is being portrayed in this story would also be highly professional and perfectly behaved enough NOT to give the guy a public smackdown, no matter how much they feel he deserves it. Ya just don't trash customers - it's an incredibly stupid thing to do. When the owner does it, you get to thinking that maybe there's not a great example being set.
Not excusing the behavior, just suggesting that the 'victims' at the LBS might have had some of it coming. Maybe they were simply getting the consequences they deserved.
"So, I get a call from the shop, telling me my bike is ready. My schedule and theirs' don't align well for the next few weeks, so we schedule a time to do the final fitting, Icancel a few other appointments and drive the 45 minutes to the store to pick it up. There are a few other customers browsing, one of them is being helped, and there are a couple of staff standing around chatting about last night's Idol. They clearly see me walk in, but make no move to try to help.
"I walk over to the counter and stand there waiting to be helped, but no luck. After a few minutes my patience leaves me, and I speak up. 'Excuse me, but I'm supposed to pick up a bike. Is there someone around that could help me?' 'sure', they reply, 'give me just a minute.' and continue chatting.
Finally, after killing 20 minutes on this nonsense, he decides to come over and help me. His Co-worker goes off to help another person that wants a test ride. 'Yeah, whaddya need?' he asks. I tell him that I'm there to tweak the fit and leave with my new bike. 'Oh. You need to see Mike over there (the co-worker) about that. He's with another customer, but ought to be done in 15 minutes or so.' At that point I lose it.
(story continues, but you see the point.)
Long experience says that when someone is trashing another, I'm probably not hearing the whole story.
I'm in a bad mood, so I'll bite.ZoSoSwiM said:Why the crack on Cervelo... Whats the stigma with them? I want an R3 really bad...
Whether or not you believe it's a threat, it's obviously meant to be aggressive and could be easily interpreted as a threat. Saying something along the lines of, "I hope a bomb goes off under your car after work" is just as threatening as telling someone you planted a bomb under their car. The law isn't necessarily black and white, and interpretation definitely falls on that "grey" line.Scot_Gore said:"I hope you die" is a death threat? then "I hope you win the lottery" is racketeering I guess.