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I'm looking for a bike to ride with the kids -- those times when I'll have on street shoes and normal clothes. For now they're too young for off road, but hoping next year I can get them on totally flat double track.

I was thinking about buying a used MTB (my wife as a Rascal that's pretty cool) then converting whatever I find to a SS or 1x9, but I'm having trouble finding a good condition rigid MTB (I have a 30" inseam -- so sub 17" I'd guess) and frankly, I don't have a ton of free time for a project bike (I'd rather be riding!).

Who makes a decent entry level flat bar SS that I could put 1.5-2.0 tires on? What about a multi-speed rear w/ fixed front -- 1x9, 1x3, etc -- doesn't anyone make one that is worth buying? The more I think about it, the more I think it'd be way easier to buy something built. I know road parts and I know MTB parts (or at least I did 5 yrs ago), but I don't know anything about SS. Thanks.
 

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I'm looking for a bike to ride with the kids -- those times when I'll have on street shoes and normal clothes. For now they're too young for off road, but hoping next year I can get them on totally flat double track.

I was thinking about buying a used MTB (my wife as a Rascal that's pretty cool) then converting whatever I find to a SS or 1x9, but I'm having trouble finding a good condition rigid MTB (I have a 30" inseam -- so sub 17" I'd guess) and frankly, I don't have a ton of free time for a project bike (I'd rather be riding!).

Who makes a decent entry level flat bar SS that I could put 1.5-2.0 tires on? What about a multi-speed rear w/ fixed front -- 1x9, 1x3, etc -- doesn't anyone make one that is worth buying? The more I think about it, the more I think it'd be way easier to buy something built. I know road parts and I know MTB parts (or at least I did 5 yrs ago), but I don't know anything about SS. Thanks.
A cruiser would work as would a SS 29er. Redline makes a SS 29er for about $450--you can get a really nice cruiser (Electra/Felt/Nirve) for about that also.
 

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I think a 29er 1x9 would be a good option. You can lead them onto dirt on the same ride and have fun yourself.

You can get a Redline, like BJ suggested, or look for a used frame to pick up on the cheap. Zion is a discount brand that makes a decent ride also. Using the wanted ads on mtbr.com, I built up a pretty solid bike for less than $1,000, but I upgraded, so it ended up costing way more, which is someting to consider if you like nice stuff.
 

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Thanks so far. I was hoping for a 26". I my MTB frame is a small. Personally 29ers with small frames look a bit silly (not looking to start a war though!)... plus it'd be nice to share tires/tubes with my other bikes if needed.
 

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Thanks so far. I was hoping for a 26". I my MTB frame is a small. Personally 29ers with small frames look a bit silly (not looking to start a war though!)... plus it'd be nice to share tires/tubes with my other bikes if needed.
Then you should hook up a 26er and set it up 1x9. If you want a hardtail, you could score a nice frame on craigslist really easily, especially if you want v brakes.

I love the simplified drivetrain. If chosen correctly, you'll never miss the extra gears.

I think a lot of us thought of a 29er immediately becasue, this being a road forum, you can put road tires on 29er wheels. However, for off road applicaitons, 26er v. 29er is a matter of taste.
 

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just don't get something with fork ends/"horiz d/os" (real horiz d/os ok tho)
Huh? I have horizontal dropouts on mt 29er, which I use with a cassette and skewer. I guess I can't decifer your post.
 

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Then you should hook up a 26er and set it up 1x9. If you want a hardtail, you could score a nice frame on craigslist really easily, especially if you want v brakes.

I love the simplified drivetrain. If chosen correctly, you'll never miss the extra gears.
Agreed. Even on the trail I NEVER use my 44t ring.

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I think a lot of us thought of a 29er immediately becasue, this being a road forum, you can put road tires on 29er wheels.
700c tires? Sorry, don't know anything about 29ers. I'm not really thinking "off road" as most would. I have a very nice Klein hardtail for that. There are a double track dirt roads by along the river, but you could ride a road bike on them (not that I would!). Also there is a paved bike path with an adjoining horse path -- sort of a double track with 1 side paved and 1 side dirt! 700c x 32s would be plenty aggressive.
 

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Agreed. Even on the trail I NEVER use my 44t ring.

700c tires? Sorry, don't know anything about 29ers. I'm not really thinking "off road" as most would. I have a very nice Klein hardtail for that. There are a double track dirt roads by along the river, but you could ride a road bike on them (not that I would!). Also there is a paved bike path with an adjoining horse path -- sort of a double track with 1 side paved and 1 side dirt! 700c x 32s would be plenty aggressive.
That was one of my motivations. I run a a 32 up front with a 11 x 34 in back (I think). I only spin out on very steep decents and it works great for commuting on pavement. It's lighter and quiter.

"29er" is a bit of a misnomer. 29ers use the same diameter rim as road bikes, 700cc. The only difference is that the rims are wider. (I think it's called a "29er" because with big off road tires, the diameter comes close to 29 inches.) So, you can put anything from a 28cc tire up to a 2.5" beast onto a 29er wheel. It gives you a lot of versatility, especially if you plan on using it as a utility or sometimes road bike. I think there's more tire versatility and choice with 700 cc than with 26" tires.

As for a 29er off road, I really like it, but there's a whole 'nother forum for that debate. :p

Why not just ride your Klein with the kiddos?
 

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Pablo said:
"29er" is a bit of a misnomer. 29ers use the same diameter rim as road bikes, 700cc. The only difference is that the rims are wider... It gives you a lot of versatility, especially if you plan on using it as a utility or sometimes road bike.
Actually it'd be more of the casual road bike that may sometimes see a smooth trail.... but you get the idea. Think "cool lightweight hybrid."


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Why not just ride your Klein with the kiddos?
Well, that's just too practical ; ) I actually DO have a second set of wheels for it (identical XTR/221s so there is no brake adjustment needed). I was thinking, no fussy wheel change, no SPDs, no flying dirt clumps, just grab the "urban" cruiser from the garage and tool around the hood...but guess I could also put street tires on my 2nd wheelset and get a SPD insert and keep the bike hung that way, THEN do the fussy swaps when I'm going to/from the trail...

Why? Perhaps it gets back to reason most cyclists even think single track to begin with... just seems like cool thing to do especially when you don't need the extra parts. I wanted to convert my wife's Klein Rascal into a 1x8. She made the statement, "well, can't I just not use the front gears"... well... ah... I guess, but what's the fun in that ; ) Maybe you're right, maybe I don't NEED a cool 1x1 of 1x9... maybe. Then again, maybe for what I'd spend, it wouldn't be as cool as a 22lb Klein MTB with street treads, which I could have for about 50 bucks!
 

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You want a Redline. There's a 26" Monocog, a 29er Monocog, and there's a new 1x9 bike on their website. Plus there's another new SS that has derailleur tabs, so has the option of being built up as 1x9. If you get the Monocog frame from PricePoint for $160, you can build it up the way you want. Got to be the best deal out there.
 

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You want a Redline. There's a 26" Monocog, a 29er Monocog, and there's a new 1x9 bike on their website. Plus there's another new SS that has derailleur tabs, so has the option of being built up as 1x9. If you get the Monocog frame from PricePoint for $160, you can build it up the way you want. Got to be the best deal out there.
The Monocog has no derr. hanger...he wants the Redline Flight frame that has a hanger if he wants the option to go 1x9 easily. The D440 is 8 speed..the D460 has discs and 9 speed



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Nice to seem some options are out there. Not everyone needs a front suspension, especially on a bike that's in the $5-600 range! I rode for several years with a rigid front... and before that had a BMX bike -- hey, no pogo there and it was fun!

Treebound -- I saw that Soho. Pretty cool bike. The SU is nice too. Good to see someone making lighter casual bikes like that.

I found a used (but not ridden much!) Cannondale M300 -- all alloy frame with rigid chromo fork:http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/00/cusa/model-0MR3.html The gears (cass, rings and chain) are rusty, but that's an easy fix.

I have an extra set of XTR/221/DT Revos, SRAM 9.0 shifters/RD, and an extra UN72 square taper BB that I plan to use. That alone should drop a few pounds! Now just need to figure out the rest... crankset, guard (or not), stem/bar and tires (guess I could use my old Contis Explorer Pros ...an exacto blade could make them into semi slicks ; )
 

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If you are still looking, I have a rebuilt Ross "Mt St Hellens" that I converted to a single speed and am looking to sell. It was from their Hi Tech series and has a cro moly frame with a rigid fork. I have a 30" inseam also, so it should fit. Please let me know if you are interested and I can send pictures. I'm in Maryland.
Ken
 
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