Turns out, one of my friends bought one of the Salsa Casserolls that Jenson was selling for dirt cheap last winter. I hadn't ridden with him in a while and couldn't believe it when I saw him on a Casseroll. He built it up as a 1x9 with DT shifters. Looks really nice, and he said it has a nice plush ride. I would have asked to test ride it, but his frame size is way too small for me. The paint and color scheme looks really nice in person; welds are about what you would expect for such an inexpensive frame. Tubes looks smaller diameter than I expected. I'm about 90% decided that this will be my next frame, unless I decide to get wild and order a custom Bob Jackson from England.