nothing broken, bike is ok...the pain will subside and when it does you'll feel great for finishing.24601 said:This weekend was my first big charity ride, the MS150 in Dallas. I had a good time and road much better than I expected. The first day was 78.5 miles and I averaged not quite 19mph. I ended up skipping several rest stops just because I got tired of stopping and just wanted to finish.
I had a great weekend, until 5 miles to gothe second day (the 2nd day was 85 miles). One of those handbikes was in the middle of the lane. They are slow (I assume he took the short 40 mile route for day 2) and always in the middle. I tried to go around him, but my rear tire caught a crack in the pavement. I went down going about 20, slid for a while. My left side is pretty beat up. My elbow is swollen, my palm bruised (specialized gel gloves stayed intact and may have saved my hand). Road rash all down my leg. I hurt.
When I finally got up (thanks to all the riders that stopped), I took a look at the bike. It is scratched, a few parts may need replaced, but after putting the chain on it was rideable. I refused sag and went in to finish. I had tears in my eyes, as I crossed the end, both from pain and seeing my wife and 2 kids for the first time in 3 days.
If it had just been the MS158 instead of 163, I would have been nothing but a positive report, but right now I really hurt. I saw several wrecks and near missed from those handbikes and low recumbents. I am not so sure they really need to be out there, aspecially since all of them ride right down the middle and don't seem real interested in moving.
Oh, and to the drunk guy outside his house when I went down, I appreciate the offer, but do not try to pick me up by the elbow I am holding in pain. No means no in both our languages. Also, after the first pleading no, don't try again. It really did hurt and that wasn't the best place to grab me.
Can't wait for next year. :thumbsup:
glad it was just rash (Skin grows back, bones don't!).24601 said:I saw several wrecks and near missed from those handbikes and low recumbents. I am not so sure they really need to be out there, aspecially since all of them ride right down the middle and don't seem real interested in moving.
however, if you hit a crack that's approximately parallel to your path, it can be really nasty, regardless of riding ability... they tend to suck you down, for reasons unknown to me.Len J said:First of all, MS 150's are always a mix of both experienced and inexperienced riders. It is your responsibility to be able to control your bike. Doing 20MPH knowing that there are slower riders on the course was one error......error 2 was not paying enough attention to avoid a crack in the road.....error 3 was not having enough bike handling experience to be able to either avoid or recover when you hit the crack. If you can't handle the speed, you shouldn't do it. So the Hand cycle rider may have made one mistake, but you made at least 3 from your description
Thanks Len for writing my response. Error 4 might have been riding too fast while tired and perhaps you should not have skipped a couple of those rest stops. When I have been on a long ride like a century and am getting ready to enter a really congested area at the end, particularly a city with lots of autos I make it a point to stop for a moment, relax and collect my thoughts so I can focus on a safe finish.Len J said:...Doing 20MPH knowing that there are slower riders on the course was one error......error 2 was not paying enough attention to avoid a crack in the road.....error 3 was not having enough bike handling experience to be able to either avoid or recover when you hit the crack...
be either insulting or rude......I was simply taking what you wrote & writing what it implied from my experience.24601 said:My issue is not just the hand bikes, but all of the close to the ground wide types. They are difficult to see and ride the middle and don't move. It seems that the fact that they cause so many issues would at least require some sort of attention. At the least they should be flagged as I saw several people run up on them in packs and not see them until almost too late.
My pace was far from quickest, in fact several people passed me right before the incident. I actually slowed down as I approached him from 23-24. The crack was a fluke and couldn't be seen. When my wheel fell in, there was really nothing that could have been done. I can handle the speed, and your assumption otherwise not knowing me or my style is fairly insulting and rude. The real issue is that there was enough space in the right lane for both of us with still some room to spare if he had just moved over a bit. I tried to go wide just to give him extra room and that is when it happened.
If they are going to be on the ride, they should ride like everyone else. The fact that he was handicapped is meaningless. He doesn't (and neither do the wide low recumbs) have more rights to make everyone have to go wide around him. At one point earlier a low bent was going around 10 up a hill as we were riding the shoulder of a major highway. There was a huge pack of riders trying to get around him, but he was in the middle and weaving. I tried to go around him, called on your left, and just as I got a wheel beside him he swerved over. I called again and he turned around and shrugged his shoulders. I was finally able to catch him move all the way to the left and get past him , but he almost immediately moved back to the middle and trapped the rest of the pack. He was a danger, no question about it. He was forcing people into traffic. If he can't ride tight he shouldn't be there.
Perfect Len.......It's a charity ride and not a race...I find it hard to believe someone can find fault with someone doing a charity ride on a hand cycle....Len J said:I applaud anyone who dedicates their time and effort to both raise the money, train and then do a charity ride. Many (probability the majority) of these riders have never done this distance before.....it is quite an accomplishment for them. I have found that one of the best things about these rides is to slow down and talk to some of the riders and ask them why they are doing the ride and then just listen........some of the stories are amazing and I always feel blessed for having heard them.
meathead said:I'm not going to bother taking sides on this one, but I do have a question for anyone out there who may know something about organizing rides like these. Why is it that, seemingly without fail, the "short route folks" get started on their ride on a time table that will cause them to be caught and passed by those doing the longer route? It seems to me that either the people riding the full route should get fired off earlier in the morning or the people doing the short route should get started after the fast riders from the full route group have passed. "Racing" a charity ride has never made sense to me, but it's an inevitability that some will have set out to do just that.It seems to me that it would be more convinient (I refuse to say safer as this group should be able to handle some passing if need be) for the fast experienced guys to not have people in their way. It also seems that it would be safer (there it is) for the short ride folks as they would not have to deal with the people who insist on hanging on for dear life with the fast group before they are ready. 24601, i'm not saying you weren't ready by any means. I'll be the first to admit that I have the fitness (over 8 years of rowing on a very competitive level) but not the bike handling skills (only 2 years on the bike). Especially in my first year of riding, I often found myself hanging on when i probably shouldn't have been, I was lucky not to wreck my own ride or someone elses (knock on wood). Anyway, what's the deal? Why can't organizers get around this issue?
+1...FrontRanger said:I just want to make sure I have the situation right. You were coming up on a slower rider from behind, tried to pass him and crashed, yet somehow it is his fault? Bents and the disabled forced to ride hand bikes shouldn't be banned from charity events. You should.
You may be a nice guy in the real world but you come off as a complete tool on the internet.