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Entered My First Road Race Yesterday Which Was Only 36 Miles Elevation Was Rolling Hills But Some Pretty Tough Climbs. At Mile 17 I Bonked!!! I Usually Ride Many Miles With Pretty High Intesity But During The Race My Heart Race Was Maxed Out Almost The Entire Time.
Was My Heart Rate That High Because Of Racing? Not Recovered, I Did Ride Pretty Hard On Thursday Before. I'm Suprised I Thought I Would Do O.k Which I Was Front 10 Or So Of 50 In The Pack. What Should I Do To Prepare??

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moto142 said:
Entered My First Road Race Yesterday Which Was Only 36 Miles Elevation Was Rolling Hills But Some Pretty Tough Climbs. At Mile 17 I Bonked!!! I Usually Ride Many Miles With Pretty High Intesity But During The Race My Heart Race Was Maxed Out Almost The Entire Time.
Was My Heart Rate That High Because Of Racing? Not Recovered, I Did Ride Pretty Hard On Thursday Before. I'm Suprised I Thought I Would Do O.k Which I Was Front 10 Or So Of 50 In The Pack. What Should I Do To Prepare??

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Hmm..

Real bonk or just too much pain from working too hard and you shut down?

Did you get a lot of wind in the front?

What level race was this? Sounds like Cat 5?

Did you eat good leading up to the ride? Have you done any A or BB group rides of 70 miles?
 

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legs felt fine i guess just workind too hard, not much wind and it was a cat 5 race. i have done some large group rides of 50 miles or so. ??THOUGHT I WAS READY?? i guess not

I bet they slowed up after you got dropped :rolleyes:

Yeah it's really amazing how these guys turn it up for race day.
 

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looked at my comp max was 37mph and average was 21. i was front of pack for the first part... the group did fall off a little but not much. we were climbing when i gave out i am a large guy 6'2" and 200lbs. i guess i thought most cat 5 racers were most my level...
 

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If the race had been entirely flat, you should have been fine. When you factor climbing in, you have to do a tremendous effort to move 200lbs up a hill as opposed to a guy who is only 150lbs. Given that frame, I'm sure you have good power output but the little guys is just doing a standard effort and you're putting out full sprint power to do the same speed. Now you know why all the climbers at the Tour are wispy-thin 130 pounders. Now you will be able to hand it to them on the flats and crush them on the descents.

Unless you can afford to drop a bunch of weight, you have to try to play is smarter. Get to the front before the hill and then slide back while the little guys pass you. Get it back on the downhill. Save your energy and try not to blow yourself up on those efforts and you'll be fine in the next race....
 

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thanks for the replies, i going to keep training maybe do some crit racing. seems like most of those races are not too hilly. i can't really loose any more weight, i work out a good bit and don't have any fat left to go. thanks again
 

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moto142 said:
Entered My First Road Race Yesterday Which Was Only 36 Miles Elevation Was Rolling Hills But Some Pretty Tough Climbs. At Mile 17 I Bonked!!! I Usually Ride Many Miles With Pretty High Intesity But During The Race My Heart Race Was Maxed Out Almost The Entire Time.

Was My Heart Rate That High Because Of Racing? Not Recovered, I Did Ride Pretty Hard On Thursday Before. I'm Suprised I Thought I Would Do O.k Which I Was Front 10 Or So Of 50 In The Pack. What Should I Do To Prepare??

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One mistake a lot of people make when they first get into racing is thinking a CAT 5 race will be easy, or because they can hang in their club ride that they can hang in a race.

Sometimes this is true, sometimes not.

A CAT 5 race many times has a similar pace to the CAT 4's and many times the CAT 3's. Most CAT 5 races have about 10 really strong riders and a bunch of riders that are not as strong. The stronger riders can push the pace pretty hard and split a pack quickly, especially with hills whether long or rollers.

The thing with being able to stay in most races is handling the surges. When the pace picks up, being able to go hard for 5-10 minutes and holding on until the pace slows back down. The better riders will cause surges to break off the slower riders.

Intervals and hill repeats will help you handle the surges.

The other thing that will help is learning how to stay in the pack and protect yourself....which is what CAT 5 racing is about....learning! I'm not much smaller than you are but am able to hang in hilly races because I wheelsuck like crazy in the climbs. I'll find better climbers and draft off of them on the lower pitches and when it gets steep I won't let their wheel go. I'm sure it annoys the crap out of them...but racing is about being first to the finish not helping others win (unless they are on your team).

Also, as mentioned, when it comes to climbs bigger guys can start out at the front of the pack and slide back as the climb progresses, then make up a ton of ground on the descent. However, this means you need to know the course and when you will have trouble on some of the climbs so you know when to move up in the pack and when not to.

The more you race, the better you will get at it and the more tactics you will learn....and the better you will get at it. There are very, very few riders that can go out and control a race or even place top 10 in their first race out.

Also, when it comes to racing try lots of different races to see which ones fit you best. With your size if you have a really good sprint...crits may be your race of choice. If you don't have a good sprint but can hold a good pace for a long time...Time Trials. If you can handle rollers and long flat courses then certain road races. If you are super fast but don't have any endurance look toward velodrome and track racing. Heck, if you have good off road skills and good speed maybe cyclocross or MTB racing is more toward your skill level.

Basically try a lot of different races and find out what you like best. Then talk with those that are faster and ask them what they do/did to get faster. Also join a club that has a team if you haven't already...you can get a lot of valuable tips there and have some competitive rides that will help you with your training.

In the end...you took the first big step...you got out there and raced and that's what it's all about :thumbsup:
 

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The last time I felt like I really bonked, shut down, or whatever it was, I started the race in first place for a couple of miles and stayed in top 4 for a couple of more. Bad idea that day. It was a MTB race and by mid-way I actually had to stop my bike, dismount and take in a gu pack while I recovered for about 2 minutes. I don't know how a MTB race compares to a distance road race yet but I continue to have to learn how much power I can spead out over the entire race without blowing too soon. Sounds like the OP went too hard too soon if he stayed in top 10 for the first half of his first race. I learned a simple if not obvious lesson - you want to be first at the end of the race not necessarily at the beginning.
 
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