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Some of y'all might be interested in this. Rodeo Labs are doing a steel/Ti version of their Trail Donkey. Need to talk to Le Bank to move $$$$ around once they open.

Flaanimal 3.0 adventure bike - a Rodeo Labs crowd funded project. - Rodeo Adventure Labs, LLCRodeo Adventure Labs, LLC


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Flaanimal Steel


  • Reyonolds 725 custom butted chromoly steel tubing
  • English threaded 68mm bottom bracket
  • Pump peg
  • 3 water bottle mounts on main frame (one beneath down tube)
  • 3 external, specific routing hardware configurations. Rear brake + single speed. Rear brake + 1x geared. Rear brake + 2x geared. Fixie (single speed + no external brakes). All routing hardware is removable and cappable for a clutter free frame when routing guides aren’t needed.
  • 27.2 seatpost diameter
  • Front derailleur, when used requires a bottom pull with a braze on mount.
  • 44mm head tube. 1-1/8” to 1-1/4” tapered steerer tube (Rodeo Spork 1.1). External cup tapered headset required. example: Chris King Inset 8. Note: Our prototypes featured a fully tapered head tube but we will change to 44mm for production to allow more customer customization.
  • 2 standard sliding dropout configurations. Geared + flat mount disc brake + 12mm 142 through axle. Single speed + flat mount + 12mm 142 through axle.Many third party open standard dropouts will also fit our frame’s dropout design for even more brake, axle, and gearing options.
  • Rear and front rack mounts and fender mounts are featured in standard positions.
  • Front fork (Rodeo Spork 1.1) features two mid-leg eyelets for rack and fender mounting. Mid leg eyelets are spaced at 65mm for option water bottle mounting (for a total of five water bottle mounts on the frameset).
  • Gates Carbon Drive belt drive compatible
  • Flaanimal features a stainless steel beer opener that bridges the upper rear seat stays
  • Rodeo Spork uses a 15mm front through axle
  • Rodeo Spork supports a 12.5kg max suggested load.
  • Rodeo Spork features a flat mount disc brake mounting surface and can also use an adapter for legacy post mount disc brake support.
  • Tire clearance / Frame: Max suggested approx 48mm at 700c with approx 4-5mm radius for space for the elements. Identical specs at 650b. Labeled tire size and measured tire size varies widely by manufactuerer, tread pattern and rim used.
  • Tire clearance / Fork: Max suggested approx 48mm at 700c with approx 4-5mm radius for space for the elements. Slightly more space at 650b (60mm wide opening at 650b). Labeled tire size and measured tire size varies widely by manufactuerer, tread pattern and rim used.
  • Weights: Bare 58cm steel frame weighs approx 2450gr. Bare 50cm frame weighs approx 2250gr. Dropout and routing hardware weight are variable per build. Weight subject to minor fluctuations on final production spec.
  • Aluminum Flaanimal head badge (currently being designed)
  • Frame hand made in Taiwan from Reynolds UK tubing.
  • Fork hand made in Taiwan from Toray Carbon fiber.
  • Flaanimals are designed and assembled for delivery in Denver, Colorado.
Flaanimal Ti


  • Identical overall specifications to steel
  • Weight: Approx 1890 gr for bare frame
  • Frame hand made in Taiwan from 3AL-2.5v titanium.
  • Brushed and bead blasted raw titanium finish.
 

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Some of y'all might be interested in this. Rodeo Labs are doing a steel/Ti version of their Trail Donkey. Need to talk to Le Bank to move $$$$ around once they open.

Flaanimal 3.0 adventure bike - a Rodeo Labs crowd funded project. - Rodeo Adventure Labs, LLCRodeo Adventure Labs, LLC


In short:

Flaanimal Steel


  • Reyonolds 725 custom butted chromoly steel tubing
  • English threaded 68mm bottom bracket
  • Pump peg
  • 3 water bottle mounts on main frame (one beneath down tube)
  • 3 external, specific routing hardware configurations. Rear brake + single speed. Rear brake + 1x geared. Rear brake + 2x geared. Fixie (single speed + no external brakes). All routing hardware is removable and cappable for a clutter free frame when routing guides aren’t needed.
  • 27.2 seatpost diameter
  • Front derailleur, when used requires a bottom pull with a braze on mount.
  • 44mm head tube. 1-1/8” to 1-1/4” tapered steerer tube (Rodeo Spork 1.1). External cup tapered headset required. example: Chris King Inset 8. Note: Our prototypes featured a fully tapered head tube but we will change to 44mm for production to allow more customer customization.
  • 2 standard sliding dropout configurations. Geared + flat mount disc brake + 12mm 142 through axle. Single speed + flat mount + 12mm 142 through axle.Many third party open standard dropouts will also fit our frame’s dropout design for even more brake, axle, and gearing options.
  • Rear and front rack mounts and fender mounts are featured in standard positions.
  • Front fork (Rodeo Spork 1.1) features two mid-leg eyelets for rack and fender mounting. Mid leg eyelets are spaced at 65mm for option water bottle mounting (for a total of five water bottle mounts on the frameset).
  • Gates Carbon Drive belt drive compatible
  • Flaanimal features a stainless steel beer opener that bridges the upper rear seat stays
  • Rodeo Spork uses a 15mm front through axle
  • Rodeo Spork supports a 12.5kg max suggested load.
  • Rodeo Spork features a flat mount disc brake mounting surface and can also use an adapter for legacy post mount disc brake support.
  • Tire clearance / Frame: Max suggested approx 48mm at 700c with approx 4-5mm radius for space for the elements. Identical specs at 650b. Labeled tire size and measured tire size varies widely by manufactuerer, tread pattern and rim used.
  • Tire clearance / Fork: Max suggested approx 48mm at 700c with approx 4-5mm radius for space for the elements. Slightly more space at 650b (60mm wide opening at 650b). Labeled tire size and measured tire size varies widely by manufactuerer, tread pattern and rim used.
  • Weights: Bare 58cm steel frame weighs approx 2450gr. Bare 50cm frame weighs approx 2250gr. Dropout and routing hardware weight are variable per build. Weight subject to minor fluctuations on final production spec.
  • Aluminum Flaanimal head badge (currently being designed)
  • Frame hand made in Taiwan from Reynolds UK tubing.
  • Fork hand made in Taiwan from Toray Carbon fiber.
  • Flaanimals are designed and assembled for delivery in Denver, Colorado.
Flaanimal Ti


  • Identical overall specifications to steel
  • Weight: Approx 1890 gr for bare frame
  • Frame hand made in Taiwan from 3AL-2.5v titanium.
  • Brushed and bead blasted raw titanium finish.
I am not really sure why yet another adventure bike frame set needs a crowd fund. It may be a nice frame but I do see anything fundamentally new here
 

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I am not really sure why yet another adventure bike frame set needs a crowd fund. It may be a nice frame but I do see anything fundamentally new here
A) Financial risk. Takes capital to pull this off. Further the tooling/design/testing is all done. These guys have done it before with Trail Donkey.

2) Re-read the feature set. You want all those features in one frame...you will not find it on the market-short of very-special ordering it custom.
 

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I get it you can configure it a lot of ways. I suspect (and I could be wrong) that most people will just build it up one way and then all those options are not being used. Are they thinking that one day you will ride it as a drop bar and then the next day convert it to a drop bar, and then on Monday its a fixie? That seems like a lot of hassle (to me)
 

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I get it you can configure it a lot of ways. I suspect (and I could be wrong) that most people will just build it up one way and then all those options are not being used. Are they thinking that one day you will ride it as a drop bar and then the next day convert it to a drop bar, and then on Monday its a fixie? That seems like a lot of hassle (to me)
Probably...But take for example the fellow over here wanting a bike able to do gravel and crits, a seemingly impossible task due to geometry challenges. With adjustable dropouts you can tighten up the wheelbase for a more nimble bike, or let them out for a more stable gravel/touring bike. You also have the full compliment of braze-ons for racks/fenders for said touring.

And if/when the bicycling world ceases using chains and derailleurs and moves to CVT and belt-you have a frame to do it.


All of which combined are things that you can't get elsewhere-which is why I'm excited over the project. Most CX and gravel bikes top out at 40mm tires, while not having any braze-ons (maybe hidden fender mounts if you're lucky-that then cap your tire clearance at 33mm)....and many of those are still QR skewer rather than TA.
 

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Probably...But take for example the fellow over here wanting a bike able to do gravel and crits, a seemingly impossible task due to geometry challenges. With adjustable dropouts you can tighten up the wheelbase for a more nimble bike, or let them out for a more stable gravel/touring bike. You also have the full compliment of braze-ons for racks/fenders for said touring.

And if/when the bicycling world ceases using chains and derailleurs and moves to CVT and belt-you have a frame to do it.


All of which combined are things that you can't get elsewhere-which is why I'm excited over the project. Most CX and gravel bikes top out at 40mm tires, while not having any braze-ons (maybe hidden fender mounts if you're lucky-that then cap your tire clearance at 33mm)....and many of those are still QR skewer rather than TA.
I am more a of multiple bikes, tailored to a need, kind of guy. Constantly re-configuring the bike does not appeal to me. However, the existence of this bike is not ruining my life so I say good luck to them
 

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I don't see anything new here either but wish you good luck!! You can get a surly and do everything your ad describes..

Maybe you should tout the quality of the frame, workmanship and materials!!
 

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I like it (and the Flaanimal in general), but I have to agree that it's basically the same as the other bikes we have been discussing in the Quiver Killer thread recently. The Litespeed T5 Gravel is very similar as is the Niner RLT 9 Steel.
 

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I sure wouldn't call it a Trail Donkey in steel/Ti, and I'm pretty sure the Rodeo guys wouldn't either. Some of the guys wanted a great riding, highly adaptable steel bike with big tire clearance. After a couple of iterations, this is it.
 

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I like it (and the Flaanimal in general), but I have to agree that it's basically the same as the other bikes we have been discussing in the Quiver Killer thread recently. The Litespeed T5 Gravel is very similar as is the Niner RLT 9 Steel.
I came across the Flaanimal a couple weeks ago and think it's a really cool frame. I don't think you can really compare the Litespeed because the titanium frame makes it much more expensive. The Niner is a fair comparison although in addition to the flexibility options the Flaanimal brings it also has clearance for about 1/4 inch bigger tires.

The Niner geometry table also looks like it has an error in it, the 56 has a stack of only 575 which seems kind of aggressive when the next size up has a stack of 610, but the size 53 also says it has a stack of 589. I'm thinking the 53 and 56 were swapped most likely.
 

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When it comes to production frames with lots of features and versatility, some of which I want, some I'll take or leave, and some which I absolutely do not want........my list pretty much starts and ends with going custom. For example and for argument sake let's say this bike is exactly what I want feature wise, well the STA on my size is 72.5 and I like 75 so there's a compromise I could avoid with custom.

And no I'm not a pampered buyer who thinks I need something different from the commoners so need custom. It's just that for the same price (give of take a little) you can get exactly what you want from custom so why accept a stock bike with compromises?

edit: Had a closer look at the site and prices. I was pretty far wrong about this stock option being about the same price as custom.
 

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...... edit .....

And if/when the bicycling world ceases using chains and derailleurs and moves to CVT and belt-you have a frame to do it.


..... edit .....
And on this day.. I will sell all my bikes..... CVTs are horrible..
 

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What do you consider a fair price for a custom steel bike frame + fork?
Assuming good quality tubes I'd say $1700 - $2000 is a good fair price. More if you start going crazy with special requests.

Geekhouse is a good example of a maker that I think offers great frames at a decent price. Home - Geekhouse Bikes

They are in Boston where everything is expensive.....so presumably there are builders doing the same thing for cheaper in other parts of the country.
 
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I am not really sure why yet another adventure bike frame set needs a crowd fund.
Web site needs a review.

The crowd funding campaign will extend until either February 31st or when the project hits our minimal funding goal.

We take each pre-sale as a show of confidence and support from our community, and if for some reason the Flaanimal project does not fund sufficiently by our deadline (February 31st) we will refund each pre-sale 100%.
 
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