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Hi,

I'm scoping out some fluid trainers for indoor use. Some have handlebar-mount levers that offer 5 resistance settings and some don't. Wondering if these additional settings are really necessary for a very hard/powerful workout.

Also wondering if any of you use the handlebar-mount levers with 31.8mm (oversized) bars. The clamps look like they're made to fit 26.0mm bars.

Anyone use trainers with the Elastogel or Softtel/Softrac rollers? They allegedly reduce tire wear and significantly reduce noise. I'd love some insight into this.

Huge thanks!
Nige
 

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GiantNigel said:
Hi,

I'm scoping out some fluid trainers for indoor use. Some have handlebar-mount levers that offer 5 resistance settings and some don't. Wondering if these additional settings are really necessary for a very hard/powerful workout.

Also wondering if any of you use the handlebar-mount levers with 31.8mm (oversized) bars. The clamps look like they're made to fit 26.0mm bars.

Anyone use trainers with the Elastogel or Softtel/Softrac rollers? They allegedly reduce tire wear and significantly reduce noise. I'd love some insight into this.

Huge thanks!
Nige
I have the cycleops 2 fluid trainer which has been great. I am only an average cyclist but I can tell you that needing extra levels of resistance would be a waste of time and money. You adjust your resistance by changing the gears and I can promise you that when you are in the highest gear you won't be able to maintain it for long.

I can't help you out on the other 2 items but I recommend you go to a Lbs and try one out. Don't buy the cheapest either. It never pays in the long run.
 

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Rarely change mine, but I'm a weak old guy

I have a basic Performance trainer from five or six years ago (cost $99 in a clearance sale, I think), and I leave it in about the middle of the range all the time, changing resistance by shifting gears. I can get all the sweat I want for about 45 minutes, which is as long as I ever stay on it.
 

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I have a Cyclops Fluid 2 also and even though I'm a big guy who can put out some decent wattage I don't need any more resistance. I can spin 90 rpm with 52/12 for about 1 minute intervals, but not much longer than that.

I can't really imagine a more quiet trainer then my Cycleops. I can listen to the radio without having to turn it up at all. Thats not to say there isn't something quieter out there, but relative to my last Mag. trainer the Cyclops is whisper quiet.

IMO sometimes simpler is better; I'm glad to have a trainer that is so quick, easy, and straightforward.
 

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Cyclops Fluid 2/Ultegra triple: never use inner ring, basic spinning on middle ring, sprint/climb on the big ring. Haven't used the smallest 2 cogs or the biggest 3, either - not saying you wouldn't, but I'm not even using a lot of the adjustability that I have without a separate variable resistance. Seems like a waste of $ and something else to break, and I wonder if the variables are more resistance - or less?

If you try one out, remember that it takes the fluid 3-8 minutes to achieve it's viscosity (it starts out too easy, then hits a tipping point and is much thicker).

Get good videos. I recommend the director's-length Lord of the RIngs trilogy. It's like 470 hours and you can hold a lactate threshhold for a long time during a battle. Enjoy!
 

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1UP USA makes the best trainer I have ever ridden. Super quiet and super smooth. I can ride in the living room while the wif studys her law school in the den and not get *****ed out. It relys on centfifugal force to self adjust it's resistance. Either that or magic!
 

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Let me just echo what Cory has said. I have the Performance TravelTrac 2 with the handlebar mount adjuster. This unit has served me well for the 2 years that I have owned it and can be had at a very good price - mine cost about $116 on sale with at 20% Performance discount code (these are rare right now...). They appear to be made by the Italian company Elite, who make some other store brands as well.

The handlebar mounting thingie comes with a rubber insert that is needed for clamping to standard size bars, so I suspect it fits oversize bars without the insert. I generally use the thing on the 3 or 4th hardest setting with the large ring in front and various cogs in the middle of the cassette.
 

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Depends on the trianer. I bought a Elite Alu fluid and I could spin the highest gear without any real resistance. I took it back and traded it for an Elite Primo fluid, What a night and day difference. This trainer uses body weight to keep pressure on the roller unit instead of spring resistance. There's another brand as well that uses a similar set up.
 

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I started out with a non-adjustable, fluid trainer from Performance. After a year or two, I sold it because it only simulated the resistance of flat roads. I then got the Travel Trac Millennium Fluid/Mag Resistance trainer that has five resistance settings. I'd say resistance Level #2 or 3 was about like my old trainer. I now ride on Level #5 most of the time and I'm not real strong. When in the highest gear on my bike and Level #5, I can stand and pedal like I'm climbing a mountain - there is lots of resistance. In my small chainring, at Level #5, I can gear down and spin comfortably for long periods of time. I think you should go for a trainer that gives you resistance options or least pick one that in your highest bike gear makes it very hard for you to pedal.
 

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Does the Elite Primo Fluid trainer "bounce" if you're out of the saddle, for example? I see that rider weight keeps the wheel on the roller and I'm curious about this. I think it's Tacx that uses this type of setup with their Swing trainer--unfortunately, it's a mag trainer and I was looking for the quietest thing I can get my hands on (the floors/ceilings in my apartment/building are paper-thin). Anything else that's good to know about the Elite Primo? I'd love to hear more.

Big thanks,
Nige
 

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GiantNigel said:
Does the Elite Primo Fluid trainer "bounce" if you're out of the saddle, for example? I see that rider weight keeps the wheel on the roller and I'm curious about this. I think it's Tacx that uses this type of setup with their Swing trainer--unfortunately, it's a mag trainer and I was looking for the quietest thing I can get my hands on (the floors/ceilings in my apartment/building are paper-thin). Anything else that's good to know about the Elite Primo? I'd love to hear more.

Big thanks,
Nige
Yes. If you are not smooth it has a little bounce. I like this because it forces you to be smoother. In reality it hasn't been an issue for me. You do have to make sure you don't sit down too hard though.

It is definitely quiet. I don't have to turn up the volume too much like I did with my old mag trainer. I must admit I was a little skeptical at first because it only has two straight support beams instead of the traditional stand, but the construction is beefy. The ride is a little more "lively or compliant" for a lack of better terms. It doesn't feel like there is as much stress on my bike frame. The best analogy I can come up with is steel is to aluminum as the Primo is to a traditional style trainer.

The manual says to tighten the adjuster one full turn when it makes contact with the skewer. I have found that this is a little too tight for my liking meaning I don't want that much pressure on my axles and bearings. I give it about a 2/3 turn and that is enough to hold me steady.
 

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I have a Cycleops Fluid 2, and it eats tires like there is no tomorrow. Don't use your good tires on that beast! That's probably true for any trainer though.

You can get a good workout from it too. I've never ever thought "man, if I just had a little more resistance."
 
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