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Sigh. Too depressed about the 'Cliff Notes version of Game of Thrones' finale (and season) that we got to even delve into all the things that sucked about it (or even the few things that were cool). Maybe in a couple of days.

But yeah, Benioff and Weiss rushed to the finish over the past two seasons, and it really REALLY showed, most especially in the finale. They really shortchanged the biggest show on TV, and will always be remembered for that. :mad:

Star Wars fans, good luck with your franchise, pretty sure B&W are going to ruin it too once their trilogy of SW films shows up, beginning in 2022 as scheduled.

And, since some would say that the SW franchise is already on pretty shaky ground thanks to a long string of mediocre films, perhaps B&W will wind up killing it off entirely. Which'll be impressive in a morbid sort of way, as even Jar Jar Binks couldn't quite accomplish that.

Wheee.
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Few thoughts,

1) B and W cannot do any worse throwing mud on a legacy that the prequels did or Solo a star wars story did or having Leia Mary Poppins her way ship to ship in TLJ (an abomination of a film we get it RJ you didn't like star wars, just don't shiat on it for the rest of us).
2) I think B and W were in a no win situation, to tell the story Martin style would have meant more seasons more development all with a cast that was over it, some had become stars and just wouldn't be around anymore.
3) The success of the show hurt itself in the end. I remember how HBO talked about stretching the budget years ago on the season finale about the first assault on King's landing. Now they had the budget to show a completely destroyed city--but in doing so, the impact of Dany and Jon's final visit with one another becomes too small--too anti-climactic.
4) As a book reader first, I know that if Martin actually finishes (HA!) the books and doesn't decide on a different ending then the gaps that BandW had to leave for time will be filled in for us, so there is that.
 

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That’s the thing I kind of dislike about television and film franchises to be honest. They suck us in, take up a considerable amount of time, emotion, and energy, promote all of this build up and hype that they can rarely live up to, and then leave us feeling disappointed and/or sad in the end. On more than one occasion I have had to stop myself from getting caught up in the hysteria and hype over the years and remind myself that these are just shows, just entertainment, and as much as I enjoy them, I have other worthwhile interests that are probably a better use of my time and energy. Given that realization, I am fine with how Thrones ended. It was a fun ride while it lasted and if B and W destroy Star Wars at this point, meh. I’ve gotten decades of enjoyment out of the franchise already. On to other and new things, just like the cast and crew....
 

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That’s the thing I kind of dislike about television and film franchises to be honest. They suck us in, take up a considerable amount of time, emotion, and energy, promote all of this build up and hype that they can rarely live up to, and then leave us feeling disappointed and/or sad in the end. On more than one occasion I have had to stop myself from getting caught up in the hysteria and hype over the years and remind myself that these are just shows, just entertainment, and as much as I enjoy them, I have other worthwhile interests that are probably a better use of my time and energy. Given that realization, I am fine with how Thrones ended.
The media is constantly fishing us for the nest LOST or GOT or Modern Family... and as you said, they often FUBAR viewership by bailing if the ratings ain't there (I was sucked in to an old series "Believe" (among others) that simply went away one scheduled night... and I've heard that "Blindspot" barely made a final season commitment(started strong, then got GOOFY)).

The industry throws out chum and see's how many sharks congregate at one spot.
 

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Game of Thrones Finale: Daenerys Deserved a Better Ending | Time

This covers a lot of the issues I had with how they handled Dany despite being a much bigger fan of Jon’s character.
yep.

Before I read all that I kind of felt pretty satisfied with Season 8. I loved how it sped things up almost to feature film pace, and the fight scenes very big and amazing. The outcome makes sense too.

But of course the show needed to do more foreshadowing of Dany's dark side in earlier seasons to make this ending work better. And the incompetency of Tyrion in season 8 is baffling too.. yet he continues as Hand, but that is a minor niggle. Everything else makes sense to me and I quite enjoyed it
 

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I think in the future, when television historians (or just plain reviewers or reg'lar folks) discuss 'biggest missed opportunities ever', Season 8 of GoT will be the benchmark for all fumbled final seasons to come.

Sadly. :(
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The signing off vignettes could've only been more drecky had they paused them and added text saying what happens to each character in the future, ala 'Animal House.'
Sorry for quoting myself, but as usual the Internet is able to provide in better fashion than my imagination:

 

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^ hahaha, that's genius. :)
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I think Beth Dutton is a better character than Cersei. Just sayin'
 

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I think Beth Dutton is a better character than Cersei. Just sayin'
Is anyone really watching Yellowstone?

I mean compared to AGOT, that is.
 

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Wow, meme #1 is actually real. And the petition is nearing 300K signers now. :lol:

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LOL. The petition has nearly 2 MILLION signers now. 😀

On the plus side… the epic fail that was the end of AGOT probably opens the way for an earlier reboot than would otherwise be the case, someday.
 

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It's not often that a series finale kills the rewatchability of a successful series like this.
 

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Is anyone really watching Yellowstone?

I mean compared to AGOT, that is.
I'm watching "Yellowstone" and I'm liking it. Yeah, it's an over-the-top soap opera (just like AGOT) with enjoyable characters. I mean, they have multi-billion dollar companies resorting to mob style hit jobs and grandkid kidnapping?

This lead my to Beth Dutton. She is a complex character both showing strength and weakness. Cersei was really a one dimensional character, really.

Anyway, I can't wait for season 4
 

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In fairness, the whole last season stunk and made little sense. The finale was the cherry on the poop sundae. See Also the Battlestar Galactica reboot's last season.

Quantum Leap's last episode did sort of torpedo the whole thing though.
 

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Coolhand. I was able to watch the rest of "Yellowstone" because I signed up for Peacock when I wanted to watch the Tour Day France. I just found out that "new" Battlestar Galactica is now streaming on Peacock. I did see the stand alone movie, which I kinda liked.

Is "new" Battlestar Galactica" binge worthy?
 

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I'll watch Battlestar Galactica dcb. Thanks for the info.
 
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