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hi folks. I've always been a commuter, but I'm getting into self-supported touring (just a 2 weeker) and I'd like your opinion. I'm looking for a solid touring frame in the < $500 range. Is there a better one out there than the Surly Long Haul Trucker for that kind of loot?

It doesn't have to be flashy or trendy or retro...I just want a solid frame for my money. I've bought used frames before, but I hesitate to do so for this purpose because of the tremendous stress my 190lbs and my gear will put on the frame. Any honest opinion will help.

Cheers, R
 

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First of all it and you ain't all that tremendous.

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...... I hesitate to do so for this purpose because of the tremendous stress my 190lbs and my gear will put on the frame.....
Second; why in the world would you want to spend money for your first tour?

Do the tour with what you got, learn a whole bunch, spend your money later when you know what you really need (a frame would be pretty low down on my list of requirements for someone first getting into touring).
 

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thanks for the advice but "what i've got" is a single speed bontrager and an old ishiwata bianchi that i've brazed track dropouts onto. one is for commuting and going to the velodrome and one is for singletrack. niether are for touring. i do, however, volunteer at a bike coop so i have virtually unlimited access to parts.

i (and the lady) both have 80 days off in a row every year. we've been getting by on what we've got for a while now and it's time to take the plunge and get new frames. if you don't have anything good to say about the surly (and could i please have some real reasons) what would you suggest in that price range?
 

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I've got nothing but good to say about the Surley (for the $$$)

I'm just thinking that if you are on a budget getting a new frame as nice as the Surley may not be the best use of your money. If you have access to used stuff any 80's sport tourer is going to be fine for a first tour. Likely once you have done a long tour you will have a long list of camping equipment to buy and you may find that the bike and/or frame isn't all that important to your touring experience.

YMMV
 

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good things to say about the LHT.

I'm pleasantly surprised by mine. I was expecting it to ride heavier than it does. corners waaay better than I thought it would. I've yet to load it with more than a drysack filled with a couple changes of clothes so I can't speak to it's handling under load but I'm thoroughly impressed by the frame with a little over 100 miles on it so far. not much else under 5 bills to compare it to besides the Nashbar frame. that's probably the best bang for your buck if you're not opposed to aluminum.
 

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There is another forum

commuter73 said:
I was curious about the nashbar frame. They don't seem to say too much about the geometry though. Do you know anyone who's had experience with it?
Which has alot more info on it. I cant remeber the website, and I'm not sure if it would be cool to post the link to it.
 

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commuter73 said:
I was curious about the nashbar frame. They don't seem to say too much about the geometry though. Do you know anyone who's had experience with it?

Hickey had one and didn't like it.

Along the lines of MB1's reasoning, I just got back from a three day touring trip. I had my maiden voyage into the touring thing. Just a few observations. It is a different game and you may or may not like it.

My suggestion would be to grab a beater bike with real low gearing and then borrow a BOB trailer if you can find one. I really believe that if you are not flying with your bike the BOB is probably the way to go. That is being said from the guy that used a rack and panniers. If you like the BOB then your options will open up on what you want to pull it with. If you don't like the BOB then you can still go for the Surly or a similar nice touring rig. I bought a Soma Smoothie frame for 200 bucks. I love it.
 

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commuter73 said:
I was curious about the nashbar frame. They don't seem to say too much about the geometry though. Do you know anyone who's had experience with it?
they buried the geometry specs on the "more pictures" page. I really think it looks like a great frame for the $, but I havent ridden or built one so maybe Im missing something. I do know that's roughly half what I paid for my lht frame and it weighs less... I just got a new nashbar catalog and it looks like theyre selling a reynolds 853 mt frame, maybe a steel tourer is around the corner. geo specs for the frame are below. <br>
<center><img src="https://www.nashbar.com/nashbar_photos/medium/NB-TRAF.3.gif">
 
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