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So it was a friend of mines birthday and I needed a card to go with her gift. I ride over to my local Giant and, knowing I'll be in there for just a couple minutes and don't feel like locking my bike up, just dismount and walk it into the store. I get a of couple odd looks from the people that work near the front but I procede to the card section (where I am the only one looking at cards) and soon after a manager approaches me and tells me she cannot allow bikes in the store.

"I'm not riding it."

Her,

"I'm sorry sir, if I allow you then I have to allow everyone."

Which is the logic so often brought up in these situation but practically I'm sure it isn't really an issue they are worried about.

Regardless, I left without incident.

But why was I kicked out? Has this happened to anyone else? Is it really Giant's policy? If it is, what is their policy on strollers? Can I walk in there with an empty stroller? Of course I can but who knows what I might do? What about a skateboard? Is it the size of a bicycle that makes them so uneasy? Surely a skateboard is more dangerous than a bike, hell, a skateboard is a weapon.

At no point in time did I even stand over my TT in the store.

Anyways, the logic escapes me. Any lawyers out there want to help me sue?
 

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what the heck is a Giant? is he jolly and green?

can't see any problem with not allowing bikes in stores... prob the case for most stores out there. if you're serious I doubt you have any basis to sue.
 

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MisterC said:
Any lawyers out there want to help me sue?
sue? thats awesome. Relax...

businesses have things called *policies*.

that said, I rode slowly up to a store's automatic door til it opened in, then pedaled my bike in to the store, where I usually park it just inside. Last time there was a security guard on the inside as I rode in, watching me in disbelief. I nodded and said "hi" as I passed him. He never said anything back. Everyone's different it seems. Maybe ask first next time? :D
 

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What the heck is a Giant?
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they could claim it's a precaution for fire safety as it could potentially obstruct a lane, but so do shopping carts and stock carts. One could potentially knock over something with a bike. Besides that they would probably revert to a slippery slope fallacy stating that "if you do it then more people will do it and if more people do it they will create more of a problem for us." I walked my bike in a walgreens (FL convenience store) once to pick up some tylenol. Got some looks but no one gave me sh*t for it. I don't think I even carried it.

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I dropped my water bottle somewhere while riding. I went inside a gas station walking my bike to buy gatorade. When I was about to pay, the attendant on the counter said, next time to leave the bike outside. I said, I don't have a lock and I don't like to park it outside. He replied "it's pretty safe around here." which I answered, I don't like to take the risk. He didn't say anything anymore...end of conversation. They have a right to refuse and if I was confronted earlier, I could have just left... still thirsty.

I should have shouldered the bike the way cyclo-cross riders do it while inside the store but Iam not leaving it outside.

I remembered the guy who left his dog outside a convenience store to buy something inside and never saw the dog again. He was offering a $5k reward on TV.
 

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Once when confronted by a bank manager I told her I can instead drive my car here and take up a parking space in an already crowded bank parking garage. Your choice. I've been rolling my bike into Bank of America every week for 4 years now, no problem. :D
 

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I can understand not wanting somebody walking a store with their bike, but I rode my bike to a McDonalds drive up window a number of years ago and they wouldn't serve me because I wasn't in a car. That got under my skin so I spread the word and they lost some buisness. Probably not enough to matter but to this day I'd eat dirt before I went there. But seeing as I haven't been to any McDonalds in about ten years, it probably doesn't matter at all.
 

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Ok Ok, the sue comment was a joke guys. Just a joke. I thought I made it clear that I'm not upset about it but am just musing on the policy itself.

I'm not asking for torches and pitchforks. Of course I'll shop there again. I know she was just doing her job.

I'm just pointing out something that doesn't seem to make sense and seeing what you guys think about it. I thought that's what forums were for.

A Giant is a grocery store in Maryland and I assume many other places. I'm sure if you type Giant into google it's the first thing that comes up.

...and I can understand why you wouldn't want people riding a bike in a store but I think it is strange to not allow it at all. The policy is there, I assume to avoid the potential misuse of the bike. But that's like not allowing driving because you might get into an accident. I can misuse pretty much anything I bring into the store.

To play devil's advocate it would be silly to allow any vehicle into a store just because it fits through the door. I don't know that I would want someone pushing a Harley through the ailes but then again, a Harly contains combustible materials.

Maybe I think this is more interesting than it is.
 

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I've questioned whether or not they would ***** if I just put my bike in a shopping cart if I needed to go to the shopping market. take the cart outside, load my paniers... I'd even put the cart back in the store. Can't be that bad right?
 

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Just shop elsewhere. Walmart lets me park the bike inside. I generally leave the bike outside convenience stores. The gym I go to got us a bike rack outside, so many of us were bringing them in. My office lets bikes inside, but then I'm the manager.
 

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When confronted, I always say that I would be glad to carry it. If they allow backpacks they should allow bikes. I can see them not wanted to dirty up their floors (which most road bikes don't do anyway), but that is about it. I got into a confrontation once with a building manager, who just started screaming at me about bringing my bike in as he saw me walking out. I reported it to his superiors and I'm pretty sure he was fired. Not really what I wanted, but when you don't have racks out front, what do you expect me to do. Most of the time these places do not have bike racks out front, so I mention that as well.

As far as the bikes in a drive through, it's discriminatory not to serve you. We are given "all the rights and responsibilities" of a vehicle, so why wouldn't you be able to order in a drive through?
 

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I've walked my bike through a Home Depot a couple times. Needed something small. I figured that if they allow those big carts, they can't object to a bike. No problems.

I wouldn't go into my grocery store with one. Too crowded. I live in a pretty boringly bike safe area (a good version of boring). I take a cable lock - not the way I'd lock it in a theft prone area.
 

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I work at an MEC in Canada - it's a big 'outdoor' store (like an REI), that has a cycling department (but no bikes). We have a no bikes policy in the store. In the case of our store, we have dozens and dozens of people come to our store every day by bike. If we let one person in with a bike, it becomes very difficult to say no to anyone else. It really is a slippery slope. How do you justify the exceptions? Our store is busy enough that the aisles would become very clogged with bikes. Of course, we do provide complimentary locks to people who use the 'no lock' defense, and our bike racks have 24h camera surveillance.

Some of my peers take their bikes into any business that does not explicitly state a 'no bikes policy' or confront them. I don't really think that's very cool, because it's not sustainable at a large scale--those same businesses could not allow everyone to come in with a bike, so why should anyone/they get special treatment?

The only store I take my bike into is bike shops, and even then, only if I need service.
 

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I work at an MEC in Canada - it's a big 'outdoor' store (like an REI), that has a cycling department (but no bikes). We have a no bikes policy in the store. In the case of our store, we have dozens and dozens of people come to our store every day by bike. If we let one person in with a bike, it becomes very difficult to say no to anyone else. It really is a slippery slope. How do you justify the exceptions? Our store is busy enough that the aisles would become very clogged with bikes. Of course, we do provide complimentary locks to people who use the 'no lock' defense, and our bike racks have 24h camera surveillance.

Some of my peers take their bikes into any business that does not explicitly state a 'no bikes policy' or confront them. I don't really think that's very cool, because it's not sustainable at a large scale--those same businesses could not allow everyone to come in with a bike, so why should anyone/they get special treatment?

The only store I take my bike into is bike shops, and even then, only if I need service.
Slippery slope is specifically referred to as a fallacy for a reason. As far as your friends at work, they are not getting special treatment, because everyone isn't asking to have their bikes inside. They are probably a very small minority of the employees. If everyone did start asking to bring bikes inside, then a plan could be reached. Until it becomes a problem, it's not a problem.

At your work, having a bike rack out front with 24 hour video is awesome. People have no excuse to bring their bike in there. It is places without those amenities that I bring my bikes in.
 
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