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Figured we ought to talk about swine flu even though by the time I go on the air at 4, everybody knows everything. She said what everybody's heard, so let me just caution you to wash your hands every time you think of it and quick picking your nose, because you can carry the droplets right to the mucosa.
But there was one surprise: In the proverbial worst-case scenario, they expect 40 percent of the work force will be affected, either as patients or caring for family members who are sick. One of the things the health dept is doing here is encouraging employers to think now about prioritizing work, training people to back up missing co-workers and arrange schedules so anyone who shows symptoms can stay home from Day One until two days after the symptoms disappear.
In RENO? Miss one day in the casino and you're history. There are plenty of people who'll work sick.
 

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Cory said:
In RENO? Miss one day in the casino and you're history. There are plenty of people who'll work sick.
With all the recent layoffs, I don't think Reno is the only city where folks will continue to work. It will likely be the norm for most cities.
 

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Where I'm at, if it gets to the worst case scenario, we will have to go through a health check before we can report to work.
 

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Cory said:
Figured we ought to talk about swine flu even though by the time I go on the air at 4, everybody knows everything. She said what everybody's heard, so let me just caution you to wash your hands every time you think of it and quick picking your nose, because you can carry the droplets right to the mucosa.
But there was one surprise: In the proverbial worst-case scenario, they expect 40 percent of the work force will be affected, either as patients or caring for family members who are sick. One of the things the health dept is doing here is encouraging employers to think now about prioritizing work, training people to back up missing co-workers and arrange schedules so anyone who shows symptoms can stay home from Day One until two days after the symptoms disappear.
In RENO? Miss one day in the casino and you're history. There are plenty of people who'll work sick
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You mean take a sick day and you're history as in kerput, finito, done and over?

That legal?
 

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lets_ride said:
With all the recent layoffs, I don't think Reno is the only city where folks will continue to work. It will likely be the norm for most cities.
Not if a state of emergency is called. Course by the time that happens, most of the city might be infected already.
 

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on a possibly related note: I saw one of these on the inside of the bathroom door at a modern high-class suburban pub tonight:



it's a "No Touch Door Foot Pull"

so, now, the drunk guys can pee all over their hands, and skip the sink like they would anyway, but avoid picking up germs from that nasty handle. instead, they can spread 'em all over their table, the bar, the bar glasses, the money, and their selves!

cool huh?
 

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A little over reaction don't ya think?

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Over reaction is always better than no reaction or the wrong reaction...see 2000-2008. Never hurts to be prepared instead of hearing about the levies breaking 2 days after the rest of the country saw it on TV...see dubya, G.
 

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swine flu is so over rated.
 

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My Emergency Management staff worked with the City/County Health Department to develop a pandemic plan three years ago. We're updating it now and are good to go. Well, at least we have a plan. Nobody knows how things will work if or until the big one hits.
 

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Creakyknees said:
on a possibly related note: I saw one of these on the inside of the bathroom door at a modern high-class suburban pub tonight:



it's a "No Touch Door Foot Pull"

so, now, the drunk guys can pee all over their hands, and skip the sink like they would anyway, but avoid picking up germs from that nasty handle. instead, they can spread 'em all over their table, the bar, the bar glasses, the money, and their selves!

cool huh?
high class suburban pub? yardhouse, perhaps? same place i saw one of these little gems.
 

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swine flu is so over rated.
I'll repoast my view...

I can understand the CDC's precautionary stance, but the panic inducing media hype is pure BS!

In the US, there are 35,000 flu related deaths each year. This flu presents itself to be no more powerful than the average seasonal ones we experience here each year.

Fear sells. It sells better than anything else except maybe sex. News is now more about what sells than responsible journalism.

I believe that we are so used to our fear injections, that we are now addicted to it. Think about it....

Here's a book I'm looking forward to reading:
The Science of Fear: Why We Fear the Things We Shouldn't--and Put Ourselves in Greater Danger
 

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Tig said:
I'll repoast my view...

I can understand the CDC's precautionary stance, but the panic inducing media hype is pure BS!

In the US, there are 35,000 flu related deaths each year. This flu presents itself to be no more powerful than the average seasonal ones we experience here each year.

Fear sells. It sells better than anything else except maybe sex. News is now more about what sells than responsible journalism.

I believe that we are so used to our fear injections, that we are now addicted to it. Think about it....

Here's a book I'm looking forward to reading:
The Science of Fear: Why We Fear the Things We Shouldn't--and Put Ourselves in Greater Danger

You're absolutely right about the fear thing- I've been saying that for years.

OTOH, this one seems to be killing young and relatively healthy folks, not just the elderly, so......
 

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Damn! How'd the media create that virus?

Tig said:
I'll repoast my view...

I can understand the CDC's precautionary stance, but the panic inducing media hype is pure BS!
Fear sells. It sells better than anything else except maybe sex. News is now more about what sells than responsible journalism.
Uhh...meaning no disrespect, or anyway not much, but as a career journalist I can tell you this is crap. I'm not going to run through the whole explanation again, but here's a C&P of what i said in another thread:

Let me just jump in from the viewpoint of "the media": What's the alternative, for a reporter or editor, to passing along news of the outbreak, then following it with information from the CDC, health officials and other experts? It's a fact that people have died, and a fact that this is a new and somewhat unusual virus. The only responsible course for those who report the news is to report that. I've read a dozen stories about it, written three and interviewed a couple of infectious disease specialists on the radio. All the reports were factual, none was hysterical, and all said very plainly that while the course of the epidemic is unknown, the risk for healthy people in the U.S. is probably small. Most noted that there's no danger from eating pork, and my radio commentary said it was OK to go to Mexican restaurants (I got calls about that; my listeners are no smarter than your pork people).
Blaming "the media" for people's reaction to bad news is a simplistic, buck-passing response. People by and large are prone to hysteria, and most of them quit paying attention to science classes in about seventh grade. But the alternative to reporting the news is NOT reporting the news, and that's worse.
 

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Revenge of the Bacon?
or the carnitas. i was just about to make some today, by preparing it last night and BAM! i'm sick today with the flu. :(
 

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Uhh...meaning no disrespect, or anyway not much, but as a career journalist I can tell you this is crap. I'm not going to run through the whole explanation again, but here's a C&P of what i said in another thread:

Let me just jump in from the viewpoint of "the media": What's the alternative, for a reporter or editor, to passing along news of the outbreak, then following it with information from the CDC, health officials and other experts? It's a fact that people have died, and a fact that this is a new and somewhat unusual virus. The only responsible course for those who report the news is to report that. I've read a dozen stories about it, written three and interviewed a couple of infectious disease specialists on the radio. All the reports were factual, none was hysterical, and all said very plainly that while the course of the epidemic is unknown, the risk for healthy people in the U.S. is probably small. Most noted that there's no danger from eating pork, and my radio commentary said it was OK to go to Mexican restaurants (I got calls about that; my listeners are no smarter than your pork people).
Blaming "the media" for people's reaction to bad news is a simplistic, buck-passing response. People by and large are prone to hysteria, and most of them quit paying attention to science classes in about seventh grade. But the alternative to reporting the news is NOT reporting the news, and that's worse.
I know you have this in two places, but I'll just reply here. You're taking this media thing kinda personally, and I feel that as a result you're being disingenuous about this. What you're doing/talking about is old-school, responsible public-service journalism. I don't think anyone has beef with that.

But there are "Death Tickers" out there. There are constant images of people wearing N95 masks. There are cable-news folks "reporting" this story with many more references to the flu of 1918 than the current incident's numbers--and doing it all in a funereal tone. Every aricle has to mention an apocalyptic worst-case senario, even if nothing much seems to be going on now. I've read NO articles that mention how many people the regular flu kills every year and I can't help but suspect it's at least partially because doing so would suggest the miniscule impact this strain has (so far) had on mortality figures.

And yet, every news outlet has to cover this story, constantly. Look how much you've done with it--a responsible journalist--and it's still not (yet) a terribly significant story. The more people hear about it, the more serious it seems, and in some sense the media can be said to be creating the story because the seriousness of the illness certainly doesn't warrant the coverage it's getting and, as a result, the fear it's creating.
 

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Cory said:
Uhh...meaning no disrespect, or anyway not much, but as a career journalist I can tell you this is crap. I'm not going to run through the whole explanation again, but here's a C&P of what i said in another thread:

Let me just jump in from the viewpoint of "the media": What's the alternative, for a reporter or editor, to passing along news of the outbreak, then following it with information from the CDC, health officials and other experts? It's a fact that people have died, and a fact that this is a new and somewhat unusual virus. The only responsible course for those who report the news is to report that. I've read a dozen stories about it, written three and interviewed a couple of infectious disease specialists on the radio. All the reports were factual, none was hysterical, and all said very plainly that while the course of the epidemic is unknown, the risk for healthy people in the U.S. is probably small. Most noted that there's no danger from eating pork, and my radio commentary said it was OK to go to Mexican restaurants (I got calls about that; my listeners are no smarter than your pork people).
Blaming "the media" for people's reaction to bad news is a simplistic, buck-passing response. People by and large are prone to hysteria, and most of them quit paying attention to science classes in about seventh grade. But the alternative to reporting the news is NOT reporting the news, and that's worse.
Uhh...no disrespect back at you Cory. I'd believe it if the reporting were a little more balanced. Doom and gloom sell. 50 times a day on the local radio they are updating the number of cases and now the one death. In the last 3 days they have only mentioned once that annually there are 17,000-35,000 deaths due to the normal flu. That was brought up by someone they were interviewing.

"The Media" seems to be more interested in regurgitating sensational stories than finding something else to report on. It's easy, it's cheap and the masses suck it up like cool-aid.

I could be wrong, but that's how I see it.
 

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OMFGWTFBBQ - Breaking news ! Nebraska has one case of the piggy flu !

Hysteria ! One friggin' case and the radio station has to report it within 30 seconds of getting the report off the wire. :rolleyes:
 

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OMFGWTFBBQ - Breaking news ! Nebraska has one case of the piggy flu !

Hysteria ! One friggin' case and the radio station has to report it within 30 seconds of getting the report off the wire. :rolleyes:
OMG, it's a probable case. Not even confirmed. Denver radio station now has a live interview with a health official in Nebraska.

Everybody, go wash your hands if you have eaten any corn in the last 18 years !
 
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