[kiwisimon]

8t truck, footage from his drive recorder.

 

[nova_rider]

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[hfc]

Worked for me. Guys carbon wheel assploded, truck almost ran him over.

 

[kiwisimon]

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try this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvdzPQMKM0c

 

[nova_rider]

That worked. One very lucky cyclist. I had a similar situation where my carbon front wheel collapsed without warning.

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[factory feel]

Chinese carbon?

 

[steelbikerider]

Shimano with narrow tires.

 

[biscut]

Can you imagine the heart stopping feeling from the bicyclist?? And I'm sure the driver had a oh **** moment.

 

[Tachycardic]

That's in Japan. Their drivers are much better and more courteous than ours.

 

[kiwisimon]

Not sure about over there in the US but here in Japan more and more drivers are driving with devices in their hands or on their laps, and bike riders for that matter. This young fella is lucky the truck driver isn't one of them. Looks like his elbow took a good hit but.

 

[Lombard]

Not sure about over there in the US but here in Japan more and more drivers are driving with devices in their hands or on their laps, and bike riders for that matter.

Here in the US too. I've even seen cyclists texting while riding.

Many states here have a hand held phone ban while driving. Though it is very seldom that it's enforced.

 

[biscut]

Here in the US too. I've even seen cyclists texting while riding.

Many states here have a hand held phone ban while driving. Though it is very seldom that it's enforced.

Lombard,

You are a wealth of knowledge and I truly respect your posts. No disrespect meant when I say the following.

The appetite for cell phones is insatiable. I've said before I'm a cop. I'm lucky enough to be a boss in a small city north of NYC. Last year our cops wrote what amounts to 12% of our population cell phone tickets. That is a damn big number. And end of Day, It hasn't stopped a single person.

I'll be the first to admit...im guilty too. And frankly, hands free is an improvement but it's also still distracting the driver. Divided attention and delayed reaction is the impetus behind driving while intoxicated laws. Same premise...politics skews all.

 

[Lombard]

Lombard,

You are a wealth of knowledge and I truly respect your posts. No disrespect meant when I say the following.

The appetite for cell phones is insatiable. I've said before I'm a cop. I'm lucky enough to be a boss in a small city north of NYC. Last year our cops wrote what amounts to 12% of our population cell phone tickets. That is a damn big number. And end of Day, It hasn't stopped a single person.

I'll be the first to admit...im guilty too. And frankly, hands free is an improvement but it's also still distracting the driver. Divided attention and delayed reaction is the impetus behind driving while intoxicated laws. Same premise...politics skews all.

No disrespect taken. And I hope you didn't take it disrespectfully as if I was implying that your cops "aren't doing their job". I think it's more of an issue of being more difficult to enforce. You can trap a speeder with radar and laser. The only way to bag a hand held cell phone user is visually. As soon as the driver sees the police car, he/she can put the phone down before the officer can see.

As far as distractions, there are many - the radio, the ac/heater, the passengers. Now we have gps systems with all these complex controls. I have a cradle for my smartphone suction cupped to the windshield. I only use it for Google maps and to check for traffic. Texts and calls can wait until the next stop.

Maybe what we need is stiffer fines and points. As we know well, the fine is peanuts compared to the spike in insurance rates for the following 3-5 years. So if only a fine, there is little incentive not to take a chance again. It's when people are hit hard in the wallet that they are most likely to change their ways.

 

[kiwisimon]

Last year our cops wrote what amounts to 12% of our population cell phone tickets. That is a damn big number. And end of Day, It hasn't stopped a single person.

what's the penalty for getting busting cell phoning and driving?

And what percentage of accidents involve a cell phone?

 

[Lombard]

And what percentage of accidents involve a cell phone?

I don't know the answer to this question, but a few years ago, a woman on a cell phone blew through a red light and almost T-boned me.

 

[Oxtox]

what's the penalty for getting busting cell phoning and driving?

And what percentage of accidents involve a cell phone?

this site says approx 25% of accidents involve cell phone use.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/03/28/cellphone-use-1-in-4-car-crashes/7018505/

other data indicate it may be much higher due to under-reporting (drivers not being cited for being on the phone at the time)

 

[nova_rider]

Here are some "official" government stats: https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/812260

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[kiwisimon]

Here are some "official" government stats: https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/812260

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great link.
I think most people use their devices cause they think they are pressed for time and figure the rsik of having to pay a fine is worth it. So why not require all drivers caught driving distracted attend a mandated training program that takes three or four hours, failure to attend such training will result in the impounding of the vehicle for 30 days at a cost of $1 a day. Monetary fines don't work as a deterrent so hit them in their time pressed lives. @biscuit, do you think a town could pass such an ordinance.

 

[Lombard]

.....do you think a town could pass such an ordinance.

I believe moving violations have to be done at the state level.

 

[biscut]

Depends upon state constitution. Usually it's a "city" form of government that the state constitution gives certain authority for "city code" type statues. Some mirror state law. Some of these fines go to city coffers but many, no matter if city code or state law violated, fee goes to big brother at state level.

Larger the city usually more power at state level. Like NYC basically is it's own state within a state ...vast juice to be able to have some of the laws they do.