[Lombard]

Depends upon state constitution. Usually it's a "city" form of government that the state constitution gives certain authority for "city code" type statues. Some mirror state law. Some of these fines go to city coffers but many, no matter if city code or state law violated, fee goes to big brother at state level.

Larger the city usually more power at state level. Like NYC basically is it's own state within a state ...vast juice to be able to have some of the laws they do.

OK, understood. I stand corrected.

 

[nova_rider]

Given that a crash due to texting can be quite devastating, not unlike drunk or reckless driving, I think the key in curbing this is to lobby for elevating texting/distracted driving infractions to the same level as reckless driving or DUI/DWI. This will unleash the wrath of insurance premium hikes and possible lost of driving privileges. Maybe, just maybe, this will get the message across to some.

 

[kiwisimon]

Maybe, just maybe, this will get the message across to some.

What app do they get that message on?

 

[nova_rider]

The Geico app?

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[Tom Kunich]

That worked. One very lucky cyclist. I had a similar situation where my carbon front wheel collapsed without warning.

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Well, that is a reason that I ride more quiet side roads. Those are dangerous enough with the occasional driver taking a close pass at you either on purpose or from trying to avoid you and looking right at you which causes them to steer closer than they should.

 

[No Time Toulouse]

Tom, are you looking to earn the title of "Dredgemaster General"?

 

[Lombard]

I love a good thread dredge. It feels cathartic.

 

[Tom Kunich]

I love a good thread dredge. It feels cathartic.

What is your yearly average mileage?

 

[Lombard]

What is your yearly average mileage?

About 3,000. Why?

 

[Tom Kunich]

About 3,000. Why?

It shows me what sort of experience you have. That 3,000 suggests you know what you're talking about so why do you find the fact that Road Bike Review leaves threads up to answer questions for new members as odd? Perhaps having drivers texting while driving was a problem in 2005 but today most cars are fairly new and have built in phone access and have voice texting so the driver can look forward while driving. It is far more likely that a car might be a Tesla and on autopilot and hit you.

 

[Lombard]

It shows me what sort of experience you have. That 3,000 suggests you know what you're talking about so why do you find the fact that Road Bike Review leaves threads up to answer questions for new members as odd? Perhaps having drivers texting while driving was a problem in 2005 but today most cars are fairly new and have built in phone access and have voice texting so the driver can look forward while driving. It is far more likely that a car might be a Tesla and on autopilot and hit you.

I never said a thread dredge was a bad thing, did I? I said I found it cathartic - you know, like a good satisfying dump.

Speaking of autopilot Teslas, there was a driver who was killed while playing a video game while his Tesla was on autopilot. Technology can't fix stupid.

 

[Felixkoch2312]

That's in Japan. Their drivers are much better and more courteous than ours.

There training and body is really good as far as I know about them.

 

[n2deep]

C

Lombard,

You are a wealth of knowledge and I truly respect your posts. No disrespect meant when I say the following.

The appetite for cell phones is insatiable. I've said before I'm a cop. I'm lucky enough to be a boss in a small city north of NYC. Last year our cops wrote what amounts to 12% of our population cell phone tickets. That is a damn big number. And end of Day, It hasn't stopped a single person.

I'll be the first to admit...im guilty too. And frankly, hands free is an improvement but it's also still distracting the driver. Divided attention and delayed reaction is the impetus behind driving while intoxicated laws. Same premise...politics skews all.

No disrespect intended however the police are one of the largest offenders. Their cars are equipped with full size computer screens and they are always watching the screen while driving down the road. IMHO thats why most offenders don't worry about a cell phone ticket because it makes the police hypocritical. Either the cell phone laws dont work, or they are not enforced or the penalty is not severe enough, it’s still a problem we need to resolve for the safety of all cyclist.

 

[nova_rider]

C


No disrespect intended however the police are one of the largest offenders. Their cars are equipped with full size computer screens and they are always watching the screen while driving down the road. IMHO thats why most offenders don't worry about a cell phone ticket because it makes the police hypocritical. Either the cell phone laws dont work, or they are not enforced or the penalty is not severe enough, it’s still a problem we need to resolve for the safety of all cyclist.

These laptops are no different than the screen on a Tesla model 3, except that the Tesla driver has no more qualification than having a so called "driver's license", unlike a patrol officer. I'm far from a pondit of law enforcement, but one can't compare them with some soccer mom with a screaming junior in the back while trying to drive and on the phone to figure out what to pick up for dinner.

 

[n2deep]

These laptops are no different than the screen on a Tesla model 3, except that the Tesla driver has no more qualification than having a so called "driver's license", unlike a patrol officer. I'm far from a pondit of law enforcement, but one can't compare them with some soccer mom with a screaming junior in the back while trying to drive and on the phone to figure out what to pick up for dinner.

True but distracted is still distracted, police or soccer mom.

 

[nova_rider]

True but distracted is still distracted, police or soccer mom.

Except one is supposedly trained to handles it. Using your reasoning, air traffic controllers can only handle one flight at a time.

 

[n2deep]

Except one is supposedly trained to handles it. Using your reasoning, air traffic controllers can only handle one flight at a time.

 

[n2deep]

Except one is supposedly trained to handles it. Using your reasoning, air traffic controllers can only handle one flight at a time.