ooo...the plot thickens...
a guy/local shop owner offered me some PI Vapors for $150 out the door.
carbon sole/non-white (i have a fetish for white stuff) vs. non-carbon/white...hmmm...
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oh yeah, i went to a shop and tried them on. the same shop that is helping us, Texas 4000, out with bikes. on the local board, i got the usual "support you LBS and they will support you" line. $209 at the LBS. i'm under the assumption that they're gonna help us out with shoes and such, but i can't get any answers from anyone. not sure if i want to wait to get an answer, or if i want to just order them. i hate waiting. i've been buying from this shop for 4yrs and still haven't seen this "appreciation" that most other riders speak so highly of, unless it's from the mechs...whom i know outside of the shop. bah,
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