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Hi. I don't know anything about bikes; I'm a BMW motorcycle guy. Around 1989 or 1990 I got it in my head that I should try a proper road bike for exercise. I went to Stuyvesant Bicycle in NYC and had a bike made. We'll get to the details but it's a Bottecchia SLX with C record components. Everything else is top drawer. Stickers all over the thing. So I get the bike and it turns out that it hurt my ass, and I got tired going up hills. I guess that it has about 200 miles on it. The bike has been sitting in my garage since then. A nice heated, dehumidified garage with my other toys. I cleaned it up last Fall, and took a lot of pics. I won't say that it's quite exactly perfect, but it is pretty damned superfine all day long.

I don't know any local riders so I ran around the web looking for cycle enthusiasts and I wound up here. Is this site a good place to sell a bike? Which of your forums would be the place to start? Thanks from Bill on the Jersey Shore.
 

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i remember drooling over the very same Bottechias at Stuyvesant Bikes on 14th back in the day.

man. you got yourself a sweet sweet sweet bike. if it only has 200 miles on it, and was in your 'dehumidfied' garage, then you can get a pretty good price on it, that's for sure.

what size is it? :)

where's the pics???



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Hi. I don't know anything about bikes; I'm a BMW motorcycle guy. Around 1989 or 1990 I got it in my head that I should try a proper road bike for exercise. I went to Stuyvesant Bicycle in NYC and had a bike made. We'll get to the details but it's a Bottecchia SLX with C record components. Everything else is top drawer. Stickers all over the thing. So I get the bike and it turns out that it hurt my ass, and I got tired going up hills. I guess that it has about 200 miles on it. The bike has been sitting in my garage since then. A nice heated, dehumidified garage with my other toys. I cleaned it up last Fall, and took a lot of pics. I won't say that it's quite exactly perfect, but it is pretty damned superfine all day long.

I don't know any local riders so I ran around the web looking for cycle enthusiasts and I wound up here. Is this site a good place to sell a bike? Which of your forums would be the place to start? Thanks from Bill on the Jersey Shore.
 

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You'd probably get more parting it out on ebay. The components are pretty desireable but the frame won't turn a lot of people on. Even though you had it made the brand isn't considered a top one and there's a lot of SLX frames out there. Check out sales of comparable Campy components on ebay to get an idea of what the parts would bring and do the same for the frame. The marketplace here is a reasonable place to sell a bike like this also but watch out for the scammers. You need to educate yourself on it's value before jumping into the market. A little time on ebay, campyonly.com and google should do the trick.
 

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What size is it? I don't know. I have a 30" inseam and guess that I did 15 years ago too. I'll measure it tomorrow. I measure the height above ground of the top of the verticle tube which receives the seatpost? I wish I knew these terms. I can measure anything, though...tell me what you need. Will people want to know the brand of the tires and rims and whatever?

I have the pics which I can upload to my hosting service, Picturetrail. I'll just load all the pics, they are dense and show good detail. I'll get to it as soon as I can and provide a link.

What else do I need to do?
 

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all true, but if it was an 89/90 model, then chance are it'll have the LeMond '89 paint job, which adds something to it's appeal.



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You'd probably get more parting it out on ebay. The components are pretty desireable but the frame won't turn a lot of people on. Even though you had it made the brand isn't considered a top one and there's a lot of SLX frames out there.
 

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Whoa boy. Before you go too far with pics and everything get to know how much your steed is worth. Know the lingo and how to measure and what parts are called. People who slather over these things will spot a noob right away. To measure the frame measure from the center of the bottom bracket (the spindle that the crank arms are attached to goes through the center of the bottom bracket) along the seat tube to either the top of the horizontal tube or the center of the horizontal tube. The first measurement is know as center to top (C-T) and the second is know as center to center (C-C). You should also have the top tube measurement. Measure along the top tube from the center of the head tube to the center of the seat tube. This is the top tube measurement. There's a ton of other possible measurements but these are the main ones people will be interested in. Make all your measurements in centimeters, to the nearest centimeter. That's a start but you really have to get to know what you're selling so you can accurately describe it to the potential buyer in terms they understand and so you don't rip yourself off.
 

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Now, see all the things I've learned so far? Mel, I don't think that there's much chance of me being taken for anything but a noob...especially since I cheerfully announced it in the first sentence of my post.:D And once I sell the bike I'm outta here.

I want to get out of bikes, not in, so I'm not going to spend much time learning terminology and I'm certainly not going to invest the time to part the thing out. The somewhat lesser amount I get for the intact bike, should it come to that, won't change my life. In addition, I remember the experience of going up to the shop on 14th street and being measured up for the bike. Those guys built me a nice piece and it deserves to be ridden, not chopped. I'm not going to feel bad if I don't wring every last red cent out of the bike although I don't care to be screwed either. And if you guys are all in cahoots to tell me that the thing is worth $45.50 and you'll take it off my hands if I pay the shipping......well, shame on me if I can't spot that. Meantime, I'll measure.
 

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You can put it on eBay with a $500 reserve and let the bidders take over. Chances are it will go for much more. As you said, don't worry about being a noob, just be prepared to answer all kinds of questions...

My guess, the complete bike will sell for around $600-800 if it's as nice as you describe.
As Mel said, you'd probably get more by parting it out but it's a pain to do...

Old bikes are no different than old motorcycles; to the right person, it could be worth a lot of money. Just be aware that there are many collectors out there that will buy it to strip it and part it out so they'll try to get it as cheap as possible .

Your goal is to find an emotional Bottecchia lover not someone that is going to strip it down..I'd pay you $300 for the bike(and it would fit me). It's not because I'm trying to steal it. It's because I'm not a big collector of Italian bikes. I'd buy it to strip it. If the same components were on a similar frame brand that I collect, I'd pay you $1000 for it.

That is why it hard to put a price on it. You get the parts hunters that will swear the bike is only worth a couple of hundred bucks yet there is someone out there that this is their "must have" bike.

It's a weird hobby...................
 

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Now, see all the things I've learned so far? Mel, I don't think that there's much chance of me being taken for anything but a noob...especially since I cheerfully announced it in the first sentence of my post.:D And once I sell the bike I'm outta here.

I want to get out of bikes, not in, so I'm not going to spend much time learning terminology and I'm certainly not going to invest the time to part the thing out. The somewhat lesser amount I get for the intact bike, should it come to that, won't change my life. In addition, I remember the experience of going up to the shop on 14th street and being measured up for the bike. Those guys built me a nice piece and it deserves to be ridden, not chopped. I'm not going to feel bad if I don't wring every last red cent out of the bike although I don't care to be screwed either. And if you guys are all in cahoots to tell me that the thing is worth $45.50 and you'll take it off my hands if I pay the shipping......well, shame on me if I can't spot that. Meantime, I'll measure.
Hell! I'll take it for that! (and I've got a 30" inseam too!)

I miss my SLX bikes... Have had a few. Always did want a Bottecchia. Brings back memories of the rides I used to do with one of my teammates with his smoke chrome Pinarello... Mmmmm those were the days!

Seriously, if you're interested in making $$ ebay's your friend. Gotta write up the ad so that someone that knows what they want is going to want YOUR bike... Lots of pics never hurts either!

What kind of BMW?? I've got an 04 R1150RT (31k miles) and maybe soon a GS. I'm debating between A GS and a KTM 640 Adventure.

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I think 500$ tops for a 15 years old. No matter how good the componentry. The frame is great btw.

I'd start it at 350 on ebay and let it be.
 

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That's the problem with road cycling-all the wrong people buy the good bikes.....

Well, hopefully a real cyclist will get a decent bike for a good deal from this poseur.
 

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That's the problem with road cycling-all the wrong people buy the good bikes.....

Well, hopefully a real cyclist will get a decent bike for a good deal from this poseur.
Now, now. Be nice.

Its guys like the OP that collectors LOVE! Without him, there'd be no nice older bikes!

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That's the problem with road cycling-all the wrong people buy the good bikes.....

Well, hopefully a real cyclist will get a decent bike for a good deal from this poseur.
Am I being called a poseur?....moi??? You gotta love the internet, right guys? So far I've been told that it's a "sweet, sweet, sweet, bike", that it's "not a top brand", that it's worth more than $1000 and that it's worth $300. And then I'm maligned in another language. WTF?

I have spent a lot of time on web forums dedicated to British bikes and BMWs (K1200RS, by the way) and I have very occasionally seen something like this happen...where someone from shows up,seemingly from another planet, not knowing the lingo, and makes a nice item available without needing to get rich from it. I'd like this bike to go to an enthusiast (an enthusiast not named Dave Stohler) and I ain't no friggin poseur!
 

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So, any pics & measurements? What colour scheme is it?

Bottecchia are not as well known as Colnago, Pinarello or De Rosa but in the 80's & 90's were up there with the best. Visentini won the Giro in 86, Lemond rode one in the forst half of 89 before he found TVT and his salary cheques from sponsor ADR. The red and white Malvor Bottecchias with Mavic SSC kit were the nuts in the 80's.

If it was just a 15 year old bike in good condition it may fetch $500 but if it's been kept the way you describe and is in mint condition then it's probably worth as much as any C-Record equipped SLX bike of the same vintage.

Try Classic Rendezvous as they specialise in this type of bike and you won't get the piss ripped out of you.
 

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Love to see the pictures

If that bike is really clean; I might be interested

I just saw a new Bottecchia in a bike shop I was in the other day, the Bottecchia Rep dropped in trying to sign this dealer up and had a couple of samples of new ones [aluminum of course]

I had forgotten how nice some of the Bottecchias looked; but I went to their site the other day and they still seem very nice.

I always prefered reynolds bikes - but a nice SLX bike might be worth collecting

I hope you get pictures and post
with your asking price
 

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The poseur returns...

The distance from the center of the crank to the center of the horizontal tube is 55cm.

The distance from the center of the head tube to the center of the seat tube is 55 cm.

The rims are Campy OMEGA strada hardox. The seat tube, brake and shift levers, steering head, pedals...actually everything I can find is Campy. EXCEPT the handlebars. The name on the bar is partially covered by the mounting strap for the speedometer and I'm disinclined to do anything to the bike just yet. The last letters of the name are ...lli...maybe.. .elli...? On the left hand side is a logo and the legend Giro d'Italia, lightly stamped into the aluminum. The bar wrap is torn from the bike falling over from the tree I had it leaned on.

The paint has two marks that I could find. They are on the horizontal tube, about 3 cm apart. One is the size of the head of a pin, and the other is smaller. Other than that the paint is pretty much flawless (understand that I took a quick look..I didn't turn it upside down). All of the decals are perfect. Nothing marked or peeled up.

You can see pictures here: http://www.picturetrail.com/wamado

The most determined nit-pickers among you may want higher resolution pics. I think I'd have to email them direct since Picturetrail seems to have cut them down to a size they like.

Regarding price..I don't know. That's what I hoped to find out when I came to this forum. If anyone has a sense of this market and would care to make a guess for me and inform me by PM I would take it very kindly.

Thanks and regards, Bill

PS: I came across a picture of Dave_Stohler and his wife; I included it in the album.
 

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The distance from the center of the crank to the center of the horizontal tube is 55cm.

The distance from the center of the head tube to the center of the seat tube is 55 cm.

The rims are Campy OMEGA strada hardox. The seat tube, brake and shift levers, steering head, pedals...actually everything I can find is Campy. EXCEPT the handlebars. The name on the bar is partially covered by the mounting strap for the speedometer and I'm disinclined to do anything to the bike just yet. The last letters of the name are ...lli...maybe.. .elli...? On the left hand side is a logo and the legend Giro d'Italia, lightly stamped into the aluminum. The bar wrap is torn from the bike falling over from the tree I had it leaned on.

The paint has two marks that I could find. They are on the horizontal tube, about 3 cm apart. One is the size of the head of a pin, and the other is smaller. Other than that the paint is pretty much flawless (understand that I took a quick look..I didn't turn it upside down). All of the decals are perfect. Nothing marked or peeled up.

You can see pictures here: http://www.picturetrail.com/wamado

The most determined nit-pickers among you may want higher resolution pics. I think I'd have to email them direct since Picturetrail seems to have cut them down to a size they like.

Regarding price..I don't know. That's what I hoped to find out when I came to this forum. If anyone has a sense of this market and would care to make a guess for me and inform me by PM I would take it very kindly.

Thanks and regards, Bill

PS: I came across a picture of Dave_Stohler and his wife; I included it in the album.
Very nice! Pity it's too big for me. Looks near-mint, so $500 would be where I'd have the reserve on ebay. Any less and it would have to be going to a very good home with no chance of being broken down. You'll probably make more splitting it though as the components look perfect.
 

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it's a beauty. i'm guessing it's a 56, or something to the effect. at least not a 55 center to center (like my sl pinarello is).

99% sure your handle bars are cinelli's.

you'll get some money for it, no doubt.


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The distance from the center of the crank to the center of the horizontal tube is 55cm.

The distance from the center of the head tube to the center of the seat tube is 55 cm.

The rims are Campy OMEGA strada hardox. The seat tube, brake and shift levers, steering head, pedals...actually everything I can find is Campy. EXCEPT the handlebars. The name on the bar is partially covered by the mounting strap for the speedometer and I'm disinclined to do anything to the bike just yet. The last letters of the name are ...lli...maybe.. .elli...? On the left hand side is a logo and the legend Giro d'Italia, lightly stamped into the aluminum. The bar wrap is torn from the bike falling over from the tree I had it leaned on.

The paint has two marks that I could find. They are on the horizontal tube, about 3 cm apart. One is the size of the head of a pin, and the other is smaller. Other than that the paint is pretty much flawless (understand that I took a quick look..I didn't turn it upside down). All of the decals are perfect. Nothing marked or peeled up.

You can see pictures here: http://www.picturetrail.com/wamado

The most determined nit-pickers among you may want higher resolution pics. I think I'd have to email them direct since Picturetrail seems to have cut them down to a size they like.

Regarding price..I don't know. That's what I hoped to find out when I came to this forum. If anyone has a sense of this market and would care to make a guess for me and inform me by PM I would take it very kindly.

Thanks and regards, Bill

PS: I came across a picture of Dave_Stohler and his wife; I included it in the album.
 

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If you put it on eBay, you should use pictures with the drive side towards the camera or have a picture from each side.
 

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beautiful bike in near new condition. i'd be surprised if you don't get at least $800 on ebay. the c record groupo was the prettiest ever made imho. be sure to show close ups (of rear derailler & its white pulleys, etc so people really see that it has about 200 miles)good luck.
 
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