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I am so sick of teaching. Actually, teaching doesn't bother me so much as administrators, school board members, and students. Without all that, it ain't half bad.

So, I have been trying to think of what else I might do. I don't mind the 40 hour week thing (work that much already, despite what some think), don't mind fewer vacations (get bored), but it has to be worth the paycheck. My pay is public record, so I'll give up that it is around $33K. Wouldn't mind a regular job if I could get $40 or better, preferably better.

I have a degree in English. Good for just about nothing. Considered going back into retail, but never back to Wal-Mart. I am actually pretty good at the managerial side of that. Considered going to law school, not sure I could afford it. Maybe some sort of writing job, but not sure what is out there. A big problem is living out in the middle of no where, so any major city is an hour drive, though people do more. Wish I could run a bike store, of course, but not sure I could really make anything there.

Any ideas of what I should do with my life at 30, wife and 2 kids?
 

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Land of opportunity...

but taking the first few steps is hard. I know, I am in somewhat of the same situation as you.

A bit off topic, but I wish I could (and others) come up with a totally revamped alternative to public education. Letting the kids run the schools has completely dismantled an already lacking system.

So, maybe there is an idea here... Anyone ever considered using their teaching experience/certificates for "retail" teaching? Parents spend tons of cash on Martial Arts centers. There is one in almost every strip mall I pass on the way home.

Why not open up a learning center - Hire qualified High School or College students as tutors or what ever--how ever. Since this is a service to the community, maybe there are some grants to help with start up costs.

The sky is the limit...Don't settle for routine...you've been there already. Now, I need to apply that same philosophy to my life... :rolleyes:

If that fails, I wonder how much I could get for a used set of tonsils?
 

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If you have a wife and 2 kids, I hope you started by asking your wife first, then came here!

With an English degree, you should target careers involving mass communications. In theory you write well, so you can do ad copy, screenplays, speech writer, author, journalist, etc. In theory you read well, so some kind of editor. That's what I would look into.
 

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Your own organs? Or someone elses?
Well, I am still waiting for volunteers, so it could be awhile, so much for at entrpreneur software that I bought off the late-night info-mercial about the hot new field of organ management sales.
 

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Well, I am still waiting for volunteers, so it could be awhile, so much for at entrpreneur software that I bought off the late-night info-mercial about the hot new field of organ management sales.
Mexico is teeming with volunteers, and there's plenty people there who will help you overcome their reluctance for a small share of the profit.
 

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Mexico is teeming with volunteers, and there's plenty people there who will help you overcome their reluctance for a small share of the profit.
So, could we this shipping through the netherlands, given the tighter border controls here than in the US ports?

Would each organ then come with a tulip?
 

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Would each organ then come with a tulip?
Kidney. On a stick, so it is cunningly disguised as the real deal. Keep refrigerated to keep the smell freshish.
 

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Kidney. On a stick, so it is cunningly disguised as the real deal. Keep refrigerated to keep the smell freshish.
sounds good, maybe we should start up a company, I think ATP was looking to become a CEO a while ago, he was talking about it in PO, any other suggestions for board members/
 

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sounds good, maybe we should start up a company, I think ATP was looking to become a CEO a while ago, he was talking about it in PO, any other suggestions for board members/
I was thinking Mr Grumpy as chief PR bigwig and J's in charge of cash.
 

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I was thinking Mr Grumpy as chief PR bigwig and J's in charge of cash.
Ah, good calls, although I think the books will reflect that the majority of the expenses went to porn.
 

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Ah, good calls, although I think the books will reflect that the majority of the expenses went to porn.
Well, that's healthy modern bussiness practice isn't it? At least the collection will keep the accountants busy when they come to check the books. Guys at Enron should have known that.
 

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I need a new job too. I have a music degree. Any takers? Lemme know if you hear of anything.
Combine your music degree with 24601's english degree...

You and 24601 could get together and come up with some better choices for Oscar winning songs!
 

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Several things come to mind . . . since I have an English degree and all the teaching credentials too.

Compensation for teaching sux. Just for comparison -- VA pays more in disability compensation than you're earning. It's tax exempt income, plus the veteran is provided health care, dental, prescriptions, commisary privileges, and free military air transportation anywhere in the world.

It's criminal what we pay our teachers, and half the reason the working "culture" is so entirely dismal is on account of the sorts of "professionals" the salaries attract.

That said, there are some options in teaching that beat working in the public schools:

PRIVATE school -- You meet a better class of student in a private school. Most are there because they want to be. Admin in private schools are inclined to send problems back to the public school ghetto.

Post Secondary -- Community colleges. Writing instruction, literature. For the same reasons as private schools. Most students want to be in class, more or less. You have the option of sending the disruptive types out of your classroom without having to get permission from the principal.

Technical writing -- These days a fair amount of technical writing can be done at home on the computer. You can contract the stuff online. This field is pretty competitive. Also you should have some technical skills.

But at 30 with a wife and two kids --

Take the LSAT and investigate some law schools. If I had to do it all over again I'd do law school. Several of my friends, women, went back to law school in their late 30's and early 40's. All agree it was a good move.

Law schools don't typically have "scholarship" programs. But here's the deal: Three years of work, interesting work if you're serious about the law -- and if you're not serious forget it because the job of the law school faculty is to weed out those who aren't interested -- three years of work and you're on track to billing your time at about $170.00 / hr.

Yes, there are lots of marginal law jobs out there -- public defender, appeals advocate, ad litem come to mind -- but my colleagues in these fields have left to "hang out a shingle" and in two years they're billing about $170.00 / hr.

Life is not a dress rehersal. If you think you want to go to law school, go to law school.

-- Because you think teaching sucks now, wait until you look back on an unsatisfactory life having done it.
 

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Combine your music degree with 24601's english degree...

You and 24601 could get together and come up with some better choices for Oscar winning songs!
You may be onto something here.
 

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Couple of ideas --- I'm an English grad and work making fairly good money as a financial writer. my wife is a teacher and has her ups and downs with it.

Since you've been a teacher, why not consider parlaying that into something else, such as, selling high school or college textbooks. I have a friend who does it. Lot's of travelling (she lives in the west), and you'll have that "gotta meet my new sales target" problem, but it goes on the academic year. You'll be talking to people whose role you understand and can relate too. Also good for people who don't live in big cities, since you can usually work out of your home/car and the sales territories are more available since many people prefer the more urban areas.

Failing that, how about writing or editing school textbooks?
What about school administration (at least you aren't dealing with behaviour problems/special ed/should be special ed but isn't....)

What about local journalism jobs. The pay sucks, but it can't be worse than youre getting now.

Seriously, 33k a year in 2006 is borderline poverty level. You won't be expensive for anyone. So, you should have lots of opportunities that won't involve a major price cut.
 

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Say NO to law school

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Take the LSAT and investigate some law schools. If I had to do it all over again I'd do law school. Several of my friends, women, went back to law school in their late 30's and early 40's. All agree it was a good move.

Law schools don't typically have "scholarship" programs. But here's the deal: Three years of work, interesting work if you're serious about the law -- and if you're not serious forget it because the job of the law school faculty is to weed out those who aren't interested -- three years of work and you're on track to billing your time at about $170.00 / hr.

Yes, there are lots of marginal law jobs out there -- public defender, appeals advocate, ad litem come to mind -- but my colleagues in these fields have left to "hang out a shingle" and in two years they're billing about $170.00 / hr.

Life is not a dress rehersal. If you think you want to go to law school, go to law school.

-- Because you think teaching sucks now, wait until you look back on an unsatisfactory life having done it.
I liked law school, I like being a lawyer and I am not afraid of the competition from new lawyers. But, unless you really want to be a lawyer, do not go to law school.

First, law school is expensive. Even a third or fourth tier law school will cost you tens of thousands of dollars in tuition. Plus, it is hard to hold down a full time (or even part time) job when you are in law school.

Second, law jobs are not easy to come by. There are people who go to law school and immediately make $100,000+ when they graduate and do all kinds of glamorous things. Those people are at the very tip of the iceberg. If you can get into a top 10 law school or make law review at the best law school in your area, you will have good job offers and prospects when you get out. Otherwise you will be scrambling for a job -- and trying to pay off your student loans at the same time. I taught as an adjunct professor at a local law school for several years. One of the reasons I gave up the job was that it made me heartsick to see so many decent people spend good money to get a degree that wasn't worth a great deal in the marketplace.

Third, just because you bill someone $170.00 per hour does not mean that you make $170.00 per hour. This is not the place for a tutorial on law firm economics, but I can assure you that: (a) not every lawyer can bill $170.00 per hour; and (b) a great deal of what a lawyer bills goes to overhead and other expenses.
 

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technical writer or technical editor

I work as a technical writer for a company that makes analytical instruments. It's not the most interesting job in the world, but the pay's ok. My background is in chemistry, but lots of writers have English degrees. You might check if your local college has a certificate program in technical writing.
 
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