Can you see primer? That's interesting about the painted on stencil. I have pictures from the factory that shows them applying decals. Maybe they changed their method...mainframe said:Tried removing the web address on the inner side of the chainstay with wet paper, both 600 and 400 grits. Although removable, I found it couldn't be done without also removing an unacceptible amount of the finish coat. The red lettering appears to be a painted stencil rather than a decal. It certainly did not come off as one might expect of a decal, but instead behaved like a painted surface. As sanding proceeded, the red got fainter until gone but I suspect the paint layer below is but a few mils thick. I don't think its doable by hand, not enough pressure and penetration control to protect the finish coat. Guess I live with the red.