My consensus of 1 is that I like my 595 pretty darn well. I doubt that my unbridled affection for it has anything to do with the seat tube. That elastomer is <1 cm of softer plastic, I suspect it does more to keep the two raw CF edges from abrading than anything for the ride. Rather it's more than likely due to the excellent design, fit and materials.steel515 said:What is the consensus on these? Are they stiffer& more comfortable, with the seat elastomer like look595? Will all bikes be like this in future?
what about Trek's ISP which doesn't require cutting?
...until resale time. If you ever think you might sell your bike, it would nice to know that there is some adjustability in the frame in order to make it fit a wider range of potential purchasers.terry b said:Trek - doesn't matter to me that it doesn't need to be cut.
This comes up all the time in ISP discussions, and from my perspective it's a red herring. First of all, the likelihood that a person looking for an XL frame is going to be wildly different in their size and confirmation is low. Secondly, the Look system allows for about 2 CM of adjustment, post cut. Thirdly, I for one don't buy bikes expecting to have to sell them, I buy them to ride. If I have a problem selling it down the road, so be it. It's not like I'll have to tell my kids to quit school and get a job to cover the $1000 residual value in a used frame.Blue CheeseHead said:...until resale time. If you ever think you might sell your bike, it would nice to know that there is some adjustability in the frame in order to make it fit a wider range of potential purchasers.
I don't think many people grow in the inseam as they age though.Akirasho said:. . .if your body morphology changes during your ownership (us oldtymers done shrunk in height, and our flexibility might lessen over the years).
... true that your inseam rarely grows, but as my hip sockets wear away, I don't wanna be out there with a moto tool grinding away my frame!PeanutButterBreath said:I don't think many people grow in the inseam as they age though.
If ISPs are a solution looking for a made-up problem, most of the the arguments against them (re-sale, imagined lack of adjustability) are made up problems. The only good argument I have heard is for people who want to pack their bikes for travel.
I don't buy any of the claimed benefits, but I do like the looks of the Looks.
first mfrs to use ISPs (besides Merckx on some very unique bikes in the 90s and Colnago on some of their Freuler frames) were all mfrs of sloping TT framestoonraid said:And the relevance of compact to ISP is .................?